• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    We kinda have two choices:

    Some flavour of socialism where people get what they need for free

    Or

    Turbo-rio-de-janiro style inequality where we all live in slums

    Now the 2nd one is what the ultra rich want and they have a lot of power, so it’s kinda on the rest of us to make the first happen instead

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        It’s an uphill battle, but it’s better to start early than late.

        Unlike before, the rich now have private armies, lobbying groups, and mass surveillance networks while we peasants own nothing. Plus, the pot is slowly boiled.

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          The rich have always had private armies and spy networks. The technology may have changed, but same old same old.

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            I disagree. My opinion is that the technology did change. It just became more efficient at doing its job (killing people, surveillance, and mass propaganda).

            The internet was supposed to be a gateway of information, but now it’s the largest propaganda network. Free speech is censored by closed source algorithms and the entire internet infrastructure is controlled and owned by the 1%.

            We are more isolated compared to before, class solidarity is almost nonexistent, and its easier to identify people now vs before due to being interconnected real time.

            I can go more on and on but the tldr is that technology has made it easier and faster to crush dissent

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          If Louis so-and-so hadn’t had a head my ancestors would have blown him to bits, that’s also an option for datacenters, just look at Iran !

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          Data centers are made by companies and companies have board of directors who have heads. CEOs have heads.

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        The sad part of a revolution is that it means civil war. You can’t have a revolution without infighting or counter revolution. It always amounts to civil war.

        The other sad part is that once the French king and queen were taken care of, it was time for the revolution OGs to get their heads chopped off. Desmoulins, Danton, D’Eglantine, Philippe Égalité… infighting and a little reign of terror just made the revolution turn on itself.

        Be careful what you wish for.

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      “maybe the clothes are made of paper. The food is just nutrient paste…”

      Or something like that from the Expanse. Sure, your needs are met, but living life on basic assistance seems like a nightmare.

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        Another fiction to look at could be Star Trek. Pretty much everything materialistic is free. You study and work not to afford your materialistic needs and wants, but for the joy of doing it.

        And people do build careers and business, for the joy and the achievement of it.

        … just to contrast your idea of badic income meaning barely surviving.

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    The economy is already morphing to serve the needs of the upper levels of worth. Look at the trend with airlines shrinking economy sections and expanding first class and business class. Pretty much all consumer offerings are moving to the luxury tier.

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    I have a suspicion they are focusing on short-term goals, because that is what those people usually do. For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop. They didn’t think this through. This isn’t some kind of visionary 4D chess. But it does not matter to them. When wasting 80 billion on a VR project that was doomed to fail from the beginning does not matter, nothing does.

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      I purposely “watch” ads because I think it’s funny that me doing it causes company’s to think they work and therefore spend more money, I cannot think of a single thing I bought because of an ad, sure some things I have learned about because of ads but if I bought the product it is because I researched the product and it fit with my expectations, most of the time I buy competitive products because my assessment process asigns negative points for ads that annoy me.

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        What you’re describing is exactly how most ads work. It’s to inundate you with a brand so you want to search it up and likely purchase it. You never bought directly from an ad, but an ad sure as fuck worked on you.

        I’m a former digital marketer. Many ads are meant for brand reach. They’re basically there to ear (mind?) worm you so you’re thinking about the brand. Digital ads can be cheap in niche markets when bidding isn’t forcing up prices due to competition for market share.

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          If buy “worked” you mean “caused me to not buy a product” then you are correct. I have no memory of ever buying a product because of an ad. In fact the ads I see are almost all for products I have no interest in. I get ads for fast food and I haven’t been to any restaurant in 10 years or so. I get ads for feminine hygiene products and I am male. I get ads in Spanish that I’m certain are for great products but I will never know because I don’t speak Spanish. I have even got an ad from a company that makes sand traps for off shore oil rigs.

          To me ads feel like a person is trying to scam me it is the same feeling I get from door to door sales people and agresive sales people in general. The more I see an ad the less likely I am to hold positive feelings for the product.

          I understand that I am nerodivergent and therefore my response to ads is atypical, but it is still my response.

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      For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop.

      Sam Altman owns a company that provides ‘human verification’

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    Yeah, the “elite” aren’t actually smart enough to figure that out. Elite is kind of an oxymoron.

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      No one asked you to use that word to describe them, why are you perpetuating it?

      They’re not elite, they’re just rich fuckers who attained massive riches by exploiting the workers’ need for survival.

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        Nobody gets rich or stays rich by hoarding money. That’s not what being wealthy means.

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            Rich people don’t hoard cash. They have assets that are valuable. A billionaire doesn’t have a billion dollars on their bank account. Hell, they probably don’t even have a million in there. All that wealth is tied to investments that either increases in value or for the very least holds it.

            Making money is incredibly easy if you have a lot of money to begin with. Going from zero to million is hard. Going from million to a hundred million, not so much.

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    Either we all die, or our owners will give us a few bucks to make a living (UBI style), but not enough to do more. We’re fucked anyway.

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      With MechaHitler controlled robots, you will compete with all of the other sharecroppers to pay your robot rental fess with your mechahitler minion’s work’s revenue. If you get rich from this scheme, Musk will increase supply of robots so that more competition to your income stops you from being rich.

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    Thats assuming that complete transition goes unchallenged. I might be misanthropic, but history has shown humans can be fark’n stubborn

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    It’s just gonna be the same 8 companies passing money between each other. Kinda like the Nvidia/openAI circle jerk. Us peasants will live in company towns, and be paid in company dollars that we can spend to buy food and water, from the company. Don’t worry, they’ll deduct rent straight from our checks.

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      I’ve always been kind of a Balam simp. They at least pretend to be upfront and halfway honorable. Arquebus was always too pretentious. Honestly I’d probably end up in the Dosers anyways. Drugs seems like a reasonable reaction to galaxy spanning corporate overlords.

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    People should consider reading Iron Heel by Jack London. Written in 1908 it is considered a social sci-fi, reading it now it feels like he came back from the future to write it.

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    Rich people mostly. But you can save your camp currency/scrip for a few years and buy some approved shoes or whatever at the work camp store.

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      They do all the work, so eventually they’ll figure out it’s better to cut the middleman and enjoy the fruits of their labour.