Anyone who works for a living is part of the working class and bullshit like this only strengthens capitals grip by pitting workers against workers.
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the epstein class are the ones who have the biggest fakest “email-jobs”.
True yes, but then there are workers much lower down with “email jobs” who spend a lot of time dealing with emails, while also dealing with lots of pressure, and stress, and low pay
e-mail centric even
The cunts who works at places like kalshi and such can 100% disappear with zero detriment to society. Those are the fucking fake-ass e-mail jobs, and to act like there’s no difference between some piece of shit pulling barely legal scams and someone in a public service position is fucking stupid.
I’ve turned down few job offers in my time because those would have me work on online gambling systems and shit.
I know people who still chose to work in there, whose motivation was something like “If I didn’t scam these people - someone else would have”. And what I think after all that - if person’s job is detrimental to society - this person doesn’t matter, even if they’re working hard, 9-to-5, all that shit.
Remember when covid happened and everyone had to stop working? Well not everyone, just everyone with bullshit jobs.
Everything was basically fine. The only real problems as far as i could tell were that we all thought we were going to die and were scared to go near our grandparents incase we killed them, and some lines stopped going up.
I wish we could do it again, share the “real jobs” out amongst everyone so we only had to work a couple days a week, only this time we can also not be terrified of apocalypse-movie scale of death.
The current cost of living crisis started because of the economic turmoil in COVID you refer to as “some lines stopped going up”. There have been other causes, but that was a huge chunk of it.
But sure “everything was basically fine” because you personally didn’t die, I guess
I admit I have a pretty juvenile understanding of economics. I meant the sewers still worked, the health care system mostly still worked even while overrun, trains still ran fine, food and supplies stabilised after the original panic-buying fuckup.
The fact that I personally didnt die was a bonus I’ll grant you that.
Ah well now I feel bad for being sarcastic which I probably deserve.
Well not everyone, just everyone with bullshit jobs.
What? A lot of people with real jobs got screwed over as well. E.g., most prominently restaurant workers. I personally know several people who lost their jobs or small businesses due to covid, including a pâtissière, local art gallery curator, club DJ, and bartender. They were all valuable members of the local community who were absolutely shit on by the pandemic.
Everything was basically fine. The only real problems as far as i could tell were that we all thought we were going to die and were scared to go near our grandparents incase we killed them, and some lines stopped going up.
Over seven million people died and are still dying, not to mention permanent conditions and long hospitalizations. And now we have an inflated, cancerous anti-vax movement, cost-of-living crisis, and generation of students who got fucked.
I’m happy it worked out for you, but the COVID-19 pandemic left a monstrous scar on the world. I can only hope our governments and people will be more prepared next time. We should not forget what was lost.
Yeah i think I didnt make it clear enough. The actual pandemic part was bad. People dying was bad. I havent lived through a different voluntary shutdown of society to use as an example instead.
A lot of manufacturing shut down for large parts of the pandemic. Hence the supply chain issues at the end of it
Yeah honestly EVERYONE should be able to enjoy Labor Day.
Fucking dammit thank you.
I’m glad to see this as the top comment
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Even car production workers?
yay labor day
I see no point in trying to pit us against each other. People with normal desk jobs aren’t inherently the problem.
Eh, I’ve worked pretty much all of those jobs and worked on stats; it’s true that these people aren’t the problem, but a lot of them aren’t helping either. They inherently don’t care as long as they’re comfortable.
Have you ever said ‘Those jobs are never coming back’?
If you have, you’re part of the problem.
When did anyone say that?
When the buggy whip manufacturers went out of business
If you punch a clock to pay your bills, you’re working class. Don’t let them turn us against each other.
So I’m a salaried engineer and can’t be part of the movement?
If you work in order to actually be able to to live, eat, and have shelter, you are working class.
The double-edged sword of western labor. Your options are:
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Work hourly and get some middle manager rolling dice to see which hours/days you’re scheduled for every week, the day before the timesheet goes out.
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Work salary and get sucked into late night deployments, lunch meetings, and assorted overtime projects you don’t receive pay for.
They catch ya comin’ and they catch ya goin’
Is this an US-specific problem?
Monthly salaries with hourly compensation for overtime is a thing too
I’ve never heard of a job that paid on those terms. Historically, you’ve had hourly contracts on a fixed schedule, so you were functionally guaranteed a minimum number of hours. But modern service workers operate under Zero Hours contracts that don’t guarantee any kind of minimum.
Are you in the US? Because that’s what they were asking. Around here monthly vage with an hourly bonus for working over time is standard.
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I think their point is we should be part of the movement. Although, IMO we should also recognize that there are definitely chose who have it worse
(I say “we” since I’m also a salaried engineer)
Yeah, as an hourly engineer that’s how I feel. When I was salary I still needed my ass in a seat if I wanted to eat, even if not being nickel and dimed on time in theory was nice (they eventually did switch to having us punch a clock though)
while the comment stated A => B, you assumed the reciprocal B => A, thus making you wrong : you absolutely can be a salaried engineer and be working class
What makes you think us salary slaves aren’t working class? I still have to punch a clock every day to get my salary…
I’m bourgeoisie, can I still be part of the movement or do I have to divest first?
Do you make enough from those investments to live off of them? If not, you’re not bourgeoisie.
It’s more a family business which I work at and get shareholder value from.
Thats petit bourgoise, thats different
No, by the very definition you are cosplaying as a poor. That might be worse.
Don’t put workers against workers.
Agreed. Unify, don’t divide, everyone who can have the day off should. There’s certain positions they have to keep operating but for them they should get time and a half for so.
Americans will attack other workers for minor differences in lifestyle rather than attack their boss for failing to provide basic quality of life in exchange for full time work.
Just like the ruling class wants…
This has to be the dumbest shit I’ve seen in a minute.
The international worker’s day is a holiday in france, so everyone can go protest (or do whatever at home, but there are usually big protests on may 1st)
So how is it different to any other day in France? 😅
Sadly there are no protests everyday (bu( I’d like, that’s so fun to go)
Just because our cage is slightly nicer and we get fed slightly better slop doesn’t mean we’re not in this together.
Most of us are sticking with you … the real problem is the 1%
I mean y’all could stick it to the one percent by forgoing going to the store or eating out on labor day
PSA, Labour day is the first of may.
Mayday like the rest of the world
Weird. It was yesterday in Canada. Funny that.
Yeah the US, Canada, NZ, Australia and Japan are weirdos in that regard.
I wish it were like Christmas Day, where almost every business is ACTUALLY closed.
I don’t celebrate, so this isn’t nostalgia for Christmas magic or whatever.
I just like that it’s a day that no matter what, for the most part, you’re on your own. Forgot to buy groceries? Scrounge the cupboard. Forgot to fill the gas tank? You’re staying home. Faucet leaking? Turn off the water, wash your hands in a different sink, call the plumber(or go to the hardware store) tomorrow. Ain’t NOTHING getting done today.
It’s the only day where the majority of people in areas where the holiday is celebrated, all agree that ain’t nobody doing anything that day.
Granted there’s lots of caveats. Some businesses are open by choice, some by necessity. I used to work at a nursing home, that’s gotta stay open, me and a few coworkers would volunteer to take the holiday shifts.
These days I’m still blue collar, but I do have most big holidays off.
But if you thought some random gas station or grocery store was gonna be open so you can pop in on Christmas? No dice.
Why isn’t labour Day that way?
In Germany it is thanks to labor unions
Used to be that way in the US. The. We let them dismantle the unions :(
And that’s coming from a proud IBEW member. Remember folks unionize. It’s the only way to get your fair share of the profits.
I wish it were like Christmas Day, where almost every business is ACTUALLY closed
Idk about where you live, but a bunch of businesses in Houston will close a little earlier on Christmas Eve and open up at around noon on Christmas Day. Nobody wants to Not Work anymore. Everything has to be open all the time.
Northeast US. But that’s a shame about Texas.
Where I grew up if your pipe bursts on Christmas you better hope you can find a Jewish or otherwise non-Christian (cultural or religious) plumber that’s only charging mild holiday markups, because the Christian plumbers ain’t gonna be so charitable (but you can probably get one to come out).
It’s emergency workers only. So yeah you’ve got medical professionals in the ER, folks keeping the water running, and some tradespeople will leave their phone on just in case they get the opportunity to make a very high hourly wage, as well as owner operated businesses that don’t feel like taking the day off (hence the old stereotypes of Jewish people getting Chinese food and watching a movie on Christmas). If it’s not an emergency you’re better off not even checking if anyone’s working.
And I agree that that’s what labor day should be like. In fact, we should have a handful of holidays like that.
Is this some kind of americian thing I’m too free as a candian to worry about? You can still end up working it but it’s overtime by default or paid time off if don’t work it
Oh yeah most of those jobs like McDonalds offer no compensation. Labor day is just another day.
Feels like amercia needs to learn the true meaning of labour day
America needs a hard reboot, a new operating system, and a huge file purge
The rest of the world has May 1st.
Yes, let’s pit workers against each other, very helpful
My boss handles everyone a chocolate bar
“Thank you guys for yo hard labor. Happy labor day”
Everyone gotta get back to labor after that.
I didn’t even get anything
Meanwhile everyone in the office upstairs gets platters of free food and drinks while working a half day but getting paid for the full day
My boss’ boss gives everyone a Lindt chocolate on their start date anniversary, which is nice and all but if I WFH for a few days or simply don’t see him for a while, then when he finally gives it to me he says something like “I haven’t seen you around for a while?” and now it looks bad. Keep the chocolate just stop thinking about me.
So in the US it’s not on may first and you don’t get a paid day off? On labour day?
‘Fake email job’ is great! I’d not heard that before.
Where i work, all the bosses get the day off and those of us who actually work still have to work.
“Fake email job” I guess this is just a weird spin on “office job”?
No, I don’t think so. Just the subset of those which have no value for society and only exist to respond to and perpetuate useless burecracy. Unnecessary middle managers, hr, etc…
More of a spin on bullshit job I’d say.
