Andrew Tate has been indicted by Romanian prosecutors for various crimes, including trafficking minors, money laundering, and sex with a minor, according to reports.

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      18 days ago

      I don’t think Romanian law sees it like that. Minors above 14 can technically consent to sexual acts with adults, which makes it still illegal, but not rape and carries a much lighter sentence.

      German law (and quite a few other European countries) is even more relaxed in that regard, while it’s still technically illegal to have sex with minors aged 14+, if they consented and weren’t somehow pressured etc, there will usually be no prosecution.

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        17 days ago

        German law is a lot more complicated and protective than what is shown here. There’s several stages at 14, 16 and 18 that have different protections - and in some of them the age of the other partner plays a role, too.

        The law is trying to prevent kids from being abused when under 16 or 18, without creating legal traps for teenagers having their first relationships.

        Age of consent is 14, but for example if one is 14 and the other one over 21 then additional rules activate - specifically something like “just using their naivety is already considered abuse”.

        So a 21y old sweet talking a 14y old into sex principally is abuse.

        Sex for money (prostitution is legal in Germany) always is abuse when one is under 18. (You’re legally an adult with 18 over here, changed from 21 in the 1970s I think)

          • M137@lemmy.today
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            18 days ago

            Then how is that relevant? This is about an adult having sex with minors, which is rape. All you did with your comment was show that you are trying to defend him. This whole “sex with a minor” thing has been a very talked about deal for over a decade now with all the well known pedophiles in places of power and the media not calling them what they are (rapists).
            Other than defending him and the others (Epstein, Trump etc.) I seriously don’t see any reason to make the comment you did.

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          it’s not whataboutism, i’m not debating anything, i’m just curious about what that particular user believes

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              why would i respond to a comment with a post?

              is the question really that hard to answer?

              i’m just curious because some of you guys think a 2 year age gap in a relationship in your later teens is rape while it’s not problematic at all when a freshly turned 18 year old dates or fucks someone decades older. for some people this is black and white to the point of ridiculousness, i’m not saying that particular user is like that, but that’s what the question is for

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                Kinda a weird hill to die on. But I’ll answer this for you.

                Yeah, you need to put the line somewhere. Is it ok to send a 15 year old to war or let them smoke?

                They are children is the reason, not the age gap. The fact that’s not obvious to you is disturbing.

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                  18 days ago

                  there’s these things called romeo and juliet laws.

                  there needs to be a strict border but it could be even higher imo, when combined with reasonable romeo and juliet laws.

                  the amount of downvotes on my comments has been a wake up call for me to how completely out of touch this website is. there’s not a single person i know that would call a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old rape. this is just like the insanity ive seen on reddit, which is not surprising as this post is on reddit.world.

                  this response signals just how chronically online this place is. pretty much nobody in the world thinks this issue is as black and white as people here are making it seem.

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            18 days ago

            Ah, yes, you’re just curious about that independent of the thread topic and what the person you replied to said…
            This is on the same level as a thread about Trumps ICE militia kidnapping an disappearing people and you replying with “ah, but what about that one time Obama wore a tan suit? How do you feel about that?”
            All you managed to do with your comment is show that you’re ok with child rape because the age difference might be less, which is real fucking bad.

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              17 days ago

              that’s exactly the exact opposite of what i was saying, if you would’ve bothered to read my replies in the thread you would’ve found that out

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          18 days ago

          that’s the first time i’ve gotten a meme made out of me, i feel honoured

          that’s a better reply than calling me a pedophile after i said a 2 year old age gap in your late teens isn’t rape and a 18 year old having sex with much older people is problematic

          guess u couldn’t think of a good reply when i called out just how absurd saying that is

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      17 days ago

      *Everything he needs to run as a republican. I think these would still disqualify him to run as a democrat.

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      18 days ago

      Sort of. This is a new set of charges, it’s unclear from the article how much overlap it shares with the previous case.

      The Tate brothers have been under criminal investigation in Romania on charges including human trafficking since December 2022. They were arrested in late 2022 and later indicted on charges they participated in a criminal ring that lured women to Romania, where they were sexually exploited, but a court later ruled that case could not go to trial because of multiple legal and procedural irregularities on the prosecutors’ part.

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    Fucking loser needs to traffick minors to get laid. So “alpha”

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        18 days ago

        A Trump official visited the Romanian authorities and the next day the Tates travel restrictions were lifted.

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      18 days ago

      Both Tates were arrested in Romania in 2022.

      There is an arrest warrant out for them in the United Kingdom since 2024.

      They were arrested in the United States in 2026 under the extradition request of the UK.

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      18 days ago

      Ircc he was, then released on house arrest, no clue what happened to that cause you know he famously got arrested in Florida recently, and last I checked that ain’t Romania. He’s probably lining someone’s pockets.

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        18 days ago

        I still don’t understand why he came to America. He’s got to know we have extradition treaties.

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        18 days ago

        I don’t know, but he sounds like some people I’ve met. When I was in Dublin, in a pub, this one Romanian guy proceeded to try and tell a joke… ugh the punchline was “it was womans” and it was good my buddy was there and bought him a pint to shut him up since I was already 10-12 pints deep. If you question that part; there may have been some “smelling salts” and plenty of cigarettes involved. Sorry for the rant it just grinds my gears.

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      17 days ago

      US didn’t let Romania to charge them. I wonder what sort of threat they made over romania

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    18 days ago

    Turns out most dudes’s cheering on of macho dickheads that take advantage of woman, ends with their own daughters. Who knew? /s

    Fuck this guy. First tough guy I’ve known trying to be hyper masculine that wears woman’s blouses, felt I had to add that.

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      18 days ago

      I’ve worked with a fair share of people that have well, killed lots of people. They looked out for me. This guy is … I don’t know looks and sounds weak? Like he would hide under the blouse at the sound of a shot.

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    18 days ago

    I hear kid molesters have a lot of fun in jail… couldn’t happen to a better guy

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        18 days ago

        I get it and he should totally reap what he sowed.

        I think we as a society should not normalize this whole casual talk of prison rape.

        I’m not calling you out personally. Please don’t take it that way.

        My comment is that incarceration should be about rehabilitation. Our system is not - it’s geared towards punishment. And the whole prison rape talk reinforces that. Not to mention rape in any context is dehumanizing. These shit-ass Tate brothers are evil as fuck but they are human and should be treated as such. IMO a society should be measured by how they treat the most vulnerable - this includes the unhoused, victims, and the incarcerated.

        I don’t mean to soapbox here, but I think it’s worth trying to change the conversation when it comes up.

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          It’s absolutely a point that needs reinforcing, but crimes like rape, human trafficking, and slavery are not crimes commited out of necessity. If someone steals food or a small amount of money because they go hungry otherwise, that is absolutely a case where they need help. Those are crimes commited out of a necessity. I think even murder can be a crime of necessity or desperation under the right circumstances. Those people need helped, and do not deserve to be treated the way they do by the justice system in many nations.

          But rape, human trafficking, slavery etc. are crimes that are committed out of malice, and malice alone. And those people committing them deserve to experience everything that they did to others. Anything less is insufficient. The only counterargument against it (admittedly a very strong one) is that innocent people also end up behind the same bars.

          • If someone steals food or a small amount of money because they go hungry otherwise, that is absolutely a case where they need help.

            But those people are already victims, and don’t need rehab targeting their behavior, neither are they dangerous, just pushed into it by circumstances.
            If you have to steal food, you don’t belong in prison for that in the first place.

            The only counterarguments

            I’ll add another I think you might agree with.
            If someone gets raped in prison, there, necessarily, has to be someone who rapes them. This will likely just be a physically stronger rapist, who on the other hand is even getting some enjoyment from prison. And what’s going to happen when that person is released?

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            18 days ago

            I agree on your distinction. However, I don’t think that revenge-raping a rapist does any good to anyone or redeem any of the wrong doing. It only creates another rapist.

            Punishment should be something that benefits the victims or society.

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        18 days ago

        I can actually see him being accepted by a gang/group or become protected quite easily ngl. Might alread know people inside. Hope he gets shanked a couple times 👌

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      17 days ago

      If the rumours are true, Andrew Tate is to Baron Trump as Jeffrey Epstein was to Donald Trump.

      So maybe Tate’s extradition warrant disappears. Or maybe he “hangs himself” in a prison cell. Or maybe he does get extradited because the rumours aren’t true or because Trump doesn’t give a shit about his children enough to intervene.

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      18 days ago

      Well let’s see if anything happens before we take notes also, who’s in power there a nazi pedo running that country? kinda hard with imminent bullshit around every corner here

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    “Our clients continue to reject the allegations against them. They have the right to the presumption of innocence, the right to properly examine the evidence relied upon against them and the right to mount an effective defense.”

    (…Prosecution plays video of Tate openly and repeatedly admitting to every single charge, in detail…)

    Rates lawyers: “Oh. Umm. Yeah, that. We can explain.”

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      18 days ago

      Because corruption and/or the US pushing hard for it and they’d not ready to fight over it.