Andrew Tate has been indicted by Romanian prosecutors for various crimes, including trafficking minors, money laundering, and sex with a minor, according to reports.

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      19 days ago

      I don’t think Romanian law sees it like that. Minors above 14 can technically consent to sexual acts with adults, which makes it still illegal, but not rape and carries a much lighter sentence.

      German law (and quite a few other European countries) is even more relaxed in that regard, while it’s still technically illegal to have sex with minors aged 14+, if they consented and weren’t somehow pressured etc, there will usually be no prosecution.

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        German law is a lot more complicated and protective than what is shown here. There’s several stages at 14, 16 and 18 that have different protections - and in some of them the age of the other partner plays a role, too.

        The law is trying to prevent kids from being abused when under 16 or 18, without creating legal traps for teenagers having their first relationships.

        Age of consent is 14, but for example if one is 14 and the other one over 21 then additional rules activate - specifically something like “just using their naivety is already considered abuse”.

        So a 21y old sweet talking a 14y old into sex principally is abuse.

        Sex for money (prostitution is legal in Germany) always is abuse when one is under 18. (You’re legally an adult with 18 over here, changed from 21 in the 1970s I think)

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            19 days ago

            Then how is that relevant? This is about an adult having sex with minors, which is rape. All you did with your comment was show that you are trying to defend him. This whole “sex with a minor” thing has been a very talked about deal for over a decade now with all the well known pedophiles in places of power and the media not calling them what they are (rapists).
            Other than defending him and the others (Epstein, Trump etc.) I seriously don’t see any reason to make the comment you did.

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          it’s not whataboutism, i’m not debating anything, i’m just curious about what that particular user believes

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              why would i respond to a comment with a post?

              is the question really that hard to answer?

              i’m just curious because some of you guys think a 2 year age gap in a relationship in your later teens is rape while it’s not problematic at all when a freshly turned 18 year old dates or fucks someone decades older. for some people this is black and white to the point of ridiculousness, i’m not saying that particular user is like that, but that’s what the question is for

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                Kinda a weird hill to die on. But I’ll answer this for you.

                Yeah, you need to put the line somewhere. Is it ok to send a 15 year old to war or let them smoke?

                They are children is the reason, not the age gap. The fact that’s not obvious to you is disturbing.

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                    20 days ago

                    i don’t understand why i have 17 downvotes and you’re getting upvoted when that’s exactly what i’m advocating for

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                  there’s these things called romeo and juliet laws.

                  there needs to be a strict border but it could be even higher imo, when combined with reasonable romeo and juliet laws.

                  the amount of downvotes on my comments has been a wake up call for me to how completely out of touch this website is. there’s not a single person i know that would call a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old rape. this is just like the insanity ive seen on reddit, which is not surprising as this post is on reddit.world.

                  this response signals just how chronically online this place is. pretty much nobody in the world thinks this issue is as black and white as people here are making it seem.

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                    19 days ago

                    yeah, we’re all horrible, you should move along somewhere else where your views are respected. byes

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                    20 days ago

                    Yes it’s rape, a child is not old enough to make clear decisions and is underage. The law sees anyone under 18 as a child.

                    Rape
                    Simple Definition
                    unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person’s will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception

                    Did you expect other pedophiles to unite here in your defense? You got a lot you need to work out, please talk to a therapist.

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            Ah, yes, you’re just curious about that independent of the thread topic and what the person you replied to said…
            This is on the same level as a thread about Trumps ICE militia kidnapping an disappearing people and you replying with “ah, but what about that one time Obama wore a tan suit? How do you feel about that?”
            All you managed to do with your comment is show that you’re ok with child rape because the age difference might be less, which is real fucking bad.

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              19 days ago

              that’s exactly the exact opposite of what i was saying, if you would’ve bothered to read my replies in the thread you would’ve found that out

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          that’s the first time i’ve gotten a meme made out of me, i feel honoured

          that’s a better reply than calling me a pedophile after i said a 2 year old age gap in your late teens isn’t rape and a 18 year old having sex with much older people is problematic

          guess u couldn’t think of a good reply when i called out just how absurd saying that is