Already left Spotify after they gave millions to that traitor pedo supporter rogan
No shit with the company that has a CEO that calls music ~“content without production costs”. Soulless middleman profiteering ghouls.
Music streaming companies with active anti-AI policies are: Qobuz, Tidal and Deezer
Bandcamp is always worth mentioning if you want to buy music directly
Bandcamp rules. Not only can you buy music but many artists also sell merch, sheet music, art and more. It’s a great, one-stop-shop to support your favourite artists.
And if you keep a look out, Bandcamp regularly email about “Bandcamp Friday” which are defined Fridays where they waive their share of the sale meaning the artist gets the whole cut!
Today is a Bandcamp Friday!
Lots of artists also do special things for Bandcamp Friday, like put up signed vinyls for sale.
Bandcamp FTW
I love bandcamp
I have been enjoying Qobuz, since quitting Spotify a couple of years ago. Everything’s better quality, they have proper credits and PDF CD booklets, the classical music metadata is much better, it encourages you to listen more deliberately to music you choose, and I don’t feel dirty for funding scumbags.
I’ve been using Qobuz for about a year and generally like it. There are a couple of things that are making me want to switch though. 1) Artists often have albums associated with them that don’t belong. Check out the Australian band Jet as an example. 2) Some artists I like have albums on both Spotify and Tidal that they don’t have on Qobuz for some reason
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This is annoying, I agree. Join Qobuz Club and upvote suggestions to prioritise cleaning it up.
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Contact the acts management to pressure the label to release on Qobuz too. It should be in their interest.
I am part of the club and upvote any comments I see about catalogue clean ups. I’ve also posted a few on my own, but haven’t gotten any acknowledgement on them from the Qobuz team.
Edit: I know a lot of people have issues with AI, but this is a case where AI could scan their entire catalogue and provide a clean up list they would just have to confirm/deny and it would be way faster than their team going through it.
I have emailed the label to request the missing albums also be uploaded to Qobuz, but did not receive any response on that. I have also submitted the request through Qobuz for the albums to be added to and received the automated reply email, but who knows if anything will happen with that.
Yeah, me too. It’s annoying how Qobuz encourage user feedback with a special app and then just go stone wall about it. There are several threads about common problems in their services and they don’t give any response at all. I hope it gives some pressure anyway with the updoots for common annoyances that can no longer be ignored.
AI is overkill. All that is needed is matching acts and albums to one of the free or proprietary datasets online. Some API integration and maybe licensing and it’s done. It’s just a decision that somebody up the organisation needs to make that they don’t for whatever reason.
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Qobuz is great! I’ve been using it for over 2 years now.
Also today is Bandcamp Friday, Bandcamp does not take fees on purchases today.
Yeah I switched over to Tidal and I like it so far. The music quality is good and there’s just a simple toggle in settings to turn off anything to do with AI.
The recommendations aren’t as good as Spotify’s but I’d rather deal with that than a barrage of AI bullshit.
I’ve found the recommendations in Tidal to be more hit or miss but overall better than Spotify since I switched almost a year ago. I felt that Spotify was pushing the same songs over and over, and I’d only find 1-3 new songs I liked a month. On Tidal it seems like the Daily Discovery playlist focuses on a genre I’ve been listening to, and while often none of the songs stick out, when it hits I’ll find 1-3 new songs that day, and it hits multiple times per month. It took a few months to get to that point though.
That’s good to know! It could also be because I just switched over, so it doesn’t have enough reference yet for what I’m listening to.
Sadly for much of what I listen to outside of band camp none of those Services have what I want typically. It’s been a few years. Maybe I need to reassess it. But there is a reason I ended up on YouTube music. Just the breadth of the content. And the fact that you get regular YouTube ad free with it also isn’t a bad deal. That’s probably why I watch Mostly YouTube anymore these days.
But I found myself having to skip more and more past AI artist that pop up randomly in the queue. Something I wouldn’t mind not doing. If any of these other services actually catered to the niches that I enjoy. Which is very hit or miss unfortunately. Last time I checked even Pandora and Spotify didn’t have a lot of what I listen to.
@Eldritch @FallenWalnut diy getting better these days
There are many ways but I’ve got rpi+beets+navidrome+tailscale at the moment and have recently added audiomuse-ai which is a game changer for spoon feeding me back my own library.
Oh I have about 6000 albums shared via NFS across my home network. And a fully automated icecast / shoutcast station with liquid soap on the back end controlling bumpers advertisements playlists Etc Over The Wider internet. I need to get that part set back up again eventually. But bandcamp and YouTube are just great for discovery. At least for what I listen to.
I won’t even pay for Spotify. I’ve only bought one song since the advent of AI and it’s from an artist I trust not to use slop
Moving to Tidal as we speak. Enough is enough.
spotify execs bet on land war in asia
spotify execs can suck my whole entire cock. finally unsubbed last year after the sub prices growing every year despite no fucking change to service. I’d rather fucking download all the music I want to listen to, which means your enshittified service is failing in its one goal. piracy is the way
It’s goal is wealth extraction and for this quarter and next it exceeds them.
Their a bunch of absolute yeasty cunts.
Spotify pays real musicians pennies. Anyone who appreciates music should ditch them.
But … they just deleted 75 million AI slop songs …
https://tech.yahoo.com/audio/articles/spotify-deleted-75-million-ai-195459893.html
Guess they were just eliminating the competition.
Exactly… slop for me, not for thee
Not only that but they got data from all of that slop to see which slop got engagement and which did not. Now they can use that data to generate more convincing slop.
Betcha I won’t. I ain’t paying for shit from that garbage app.
Spotify would be wrong.
lol I’m so glad I unsubbed back when they started letting ICEatzgruppen advertise on their platform. I paid for ad free, but simply knowing they were running ads for the all-American Stasi made me drop them like a hot potato.
They’re right, most people have shit music taste.
I have shit music taste, but only because I’m self aware enough to know I do.
You may be shrugging right now, going “well, I don’t have shit music taste.”
You do.
It’s not shit, it’s just easily hackable. If a real person recommends a song or band, I let most of my defenses down and try to find why it was recommended.
Consider those who just turn on artist radios, Spotify can’t blacklist an artist they feature, to my knowledge.
Oh, there’s an Ai group in your favorite artist’s radio? Guess there always will be, and they won’t be alone, why do that? Less they have to pay.
That has nothing to do with taste. You could be blasting Dave Brubeck and the next song is an Ai drum solo.
I’m glad I got rid of that shit years ago
Yup. I haven’t used Spotify in years. I see these constant headlines and articles about Spotify doing stupid shit over and over and over again and wonder why people keep using that pile of trash when there are numerous better alternatives.
I’ve talked with Spotify users about the alternatives and how they are better and linked them to playlist transfer services so they can jump ship in as little as 15 minutes and they still refuse to do it. They’d rather keep using Spotify and constantly bitching about how terrible it is. They have effectively Stockholm syndrome’d their userbase at this point.
and wonder why people keep using that pile of trash when there are numerous better alternatives.
It’s simple. because they are good consumers.
the advertising industry taught them well.
We were on a long drive last weekend and my wife was complaining that Spotify wouldn’t actually shuffle randomly and that it keeps trying to get her to listen to AI songs and doesn’t work well.
My response: You could stop paying for Spotify and use the free Tidal subscription I’ve been trying to get you to use.
Her: But it would be so hard!
Me: No, it wouldn’t. It took me 10 mins to switch.
smh
10 minutes?! What did you do, watch a 8 minute tutorial video first? :D
Moving the playlists across, even with the tool they provide is a bit of a pain, I’m still having to occasionally remove bad tracks
I need to set up Revanced for my brother. He still uses Spotify
It’s crap. I’ve listened to a little of it. Generic, predictable, and full of issues like “singers” rapping out 30 seconds of high volume lyrics without a single intake of breath. But it fits in with the general overall quality of available music on Spotify. A sea of boring and low-effort junk.

















