Something big is happening, as Reddit seems to have purged literally every NSFW sub they know. Reason is always “unmoderated” despite some of the banned subreddits being fully moderated.
Edit: seems to have been a bug in automation (thanks @lefty7283@lemmy.world):
https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/1ii67mt/_/mb3fewv
It’s still a good reminder on how quickly a community (or communities) thousands of people enjoy and in some cases rely upon can disappear.
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Man, I hope lemmynsfw is ready, lol
As a quick reminder: don’t expect them to handle your load (lol) for free. If you are a gooner/goonette with some income, leave a tip for the server costs and consider volunteering for mod duties if you have time and some internet social skills. If you value your nsfw communities, they don’t exist without work, like any other community.
RIP lemmynsfw’s inbox.
They’re gonna need so much money to host all the new content.
Are they the only porn instance? I am surprised at little porn I see on here and when I do it’s all lemmynsfw.
Hosting NSFW content is an absolute ball-ache, so a lot of instances that are not NSFW focussed do not host it.
In the early days of feddit.uk, we decided to go the path of SFW, to simplify things.
I absolutely salute the lemmy-nsfw admins in taking that load on.
And it makes a lot of sense: If you’re going to deal with the headaches, you might as well focus entirely on them!As much as it sucks to say, it wouldn’t surprise me if this stuff on Reddit is for the same reason.
Isnt it harder to host that kind of stuff, like you need certain providers, prob a bitch to moderate
r/transgender_surgeries wasn’t porn. It was a community outlet for results so people could understand what to expect. Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.
It’s fucking infuriating.
Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.
This is the whole point of these porn bans is to remove queer people from the internet. The porn cover just allows it to happen. So whenever you see anything about porn bans think queer ban first and then some porn removal that comes right back
The old ass fascists trying to hold together their plutocracy suppress anything that goes against their patriarchal values.
Even looking at it as a fetish, trans porn has been skyrocketing in popularity
https://www.pornhub.com/insights/transgender-searches
And this terrifies right wingers
The current patriarchy sees non-binary people as a threat to their heirachies. If the line between man and woman gets blurred then we start questioning why we aren’t all actually equal, and that leads to us removing them from power.
Really anything that shows or hints that any part of their “natural” order is something created. Gender is a big one but anything
It’s a shame. I’m not trans. I’m a cis male and I have no desire to be female. But I live in a very trans friendly community and as such I have many trans friends and they need outlets. I joined a meetup group which inadvertly became a trans safe space (original topic was anime) and many trans people just joined as it was the one space where they weren’t judged. We just did it in the way of anime, like their only safe space is something not trans releated and this is despite living in a friendly city. I will be an ally to all my trans friends and support them in this time of need.
I’m currently discussing with people about mirroring it somewhere on lemmy, but there is also Transbucket which already exists as its own independent website.
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You… see who’s in charge, right? Republicans always target LGBTQ+ folks for “pornographic” violations.
I mean, ffs. #notallcishet? I don’t get how people who are being oppressed and all lumped together under one description (which you all definitely are) can be so nonchalant throwing around broad strokes like that.
You got a problem with trans people? No? Then it wasn’t talking about you. Christ, is that hard to understand?
When a group of people makes an “us vs them” against a minority, it forces the minority to use that language back. As a cishet person, your identity is being used as a weapon to harm trans people regardless if you’re doing anything. Ignorance of the minorities plight can be weaponized to do more harm and that ignorance can be shielded through appeals to normalcy and tradition.
When you respond to that language with “not all cishet people” you signal that your support is contingent on you not losing anything (your ignorance is one of the things you can lose). Which can and will be used to weaponize more harm against the minority group.
I realize that I’m outnumbered here and that this is apparently an unpopular opinion, but nobody is forcing anyone to say “all x are y” because someone else is (I agree, in bad faith) doing the same thing.
You’ve both been quite rude to me and I’m done engaging you, but that’s the full extent of my point and I’m unconvinced by your rebuttals.
Ciao now 🫡
nobody is forcing anyone to say “all x are y” because someone else is (I agree, in bad faith) doing the same thing.
Legal documents are being made to say that all x (transgender individuals) are now y (the wrong gender) because someone else (the government) is making them say so.
I’ve never disputed that. I don’t know how reiterating that fact in any way supports the idea that it “forces” transgender individuals to use the same language to describe “all cishet” people.
That was my point. It always has been.
If I were visually impaired and protesting unsuccessfully for better accessibility in my work environments, I can’t imagine why I would make a claim in any capacity including the language “all sighted people”.
Lol was that hashtag ironic? You know “not all men” is frequently referenced as a critique about men who can’t hear criticism of gender equality because “not all men”? As a cishet dude: calm down, their point is valid and your reaction is cringe
Ludicrous. But fuck it. As you were 🙄
Can you please learn and understand that when people are frustrated they often use a little hyperbole? It’s very selfish to respond to people like this.
Well it is genitals but the purpose is entirely different. I don’t agree with it but I can at least see the logic.
By that “logic”, all obgyn’s are sex workers. It’s shit justification for bigotry and shouldn’t be given any credence whatsoever.
Not sure I follow the logic since an OBGYNs job is not get you off.
If they are banning NSFW images, then that’s why.
Like I said the purpose of those images in the trans subreddits serve an educational purpose. But you probably shouldn’t be viewing it at work. If they are banning nudity, that’s nudity.
Like I said I don’t agree with the ban hammer, but it’s consistent. However, in my opinion, all it should be left as is regardless of the purpose.
since an OBGYNs job is not get you off.
Neither is trans people posting the results of surgery.
This entire line of thinking is contradictory, nonsensical and unhelpful.
I was replying to comment the “OBGYNs are sex workers” comment. No Tran surgery pics are very useful.
If you can’t follow that logic I’m not sure what to do.
Remember when tumblr got rid of porn and everyone stopped using it.
Reminds me of an old favorite CollegeHumor video comedy skit series - “A Message From Your Favorite CEO” featuring the Tumblr CEO…
Miss that series so much
Shockingly it’s still alive, and even moreso there’s still porn, albeit softcore and/or censored with links pointing to Bluesky and/or patreon. There are also pornbots that pop up and follow me every now and again.
This has been predicted for many years. Most were expecting it to happen before the IPO, since investors are afraid of porn.
They had also been gradually heading down this path for a long time, making porn harder and harder (heh) to find and view.
It’s not only porn. Today i google-image searched a skin condition. Most results were reddit links, but i wasn’t able to open any of them without their app as the subreddits were apparently 18+!
I wasn’t able to view any of the information as i refuse to install the app. Google should deprioritize the results that can’t be viewed in the browser.
You should still be able to navigate to those posts by changing the link to old.reddit.com. But I assume that will go away at some point too.
And the Firefox extension “old Reddit redirect” does it for you!
I love that extension
Or just switching to Show Desktop Site
Just request desktop mode, that bypasses it.
I know that trick, i just rarely use it and forgot about it 🤦♂️
That’s understandable. There are a whole lot of little tricks and workarounds you’ve gotta constantly keep in your head and recall on the spot to try and navigate the crap that is the modern Internet. In addition to all the other life stuff we’ve gotta remember!
In the top right of your internet browser, there should be a menu button. If you hit that, there should be a “Desktop Site” button. If you check that, the app prompt goes away. It’s annoying that it’s required, but at least you won’t be locked out
It’s only a matter of time. They don’t display any ads on nsfw subreddits currently, so management likely sees these subreddits as nothing but a cost, especially because they tend to be heavily image/gif based. what they are unsure about, which is why they haven’t been purged yet, is likely how much traffic to non-nsfw subreddits nsfw subreddits drive. I think we are likely to see purges of them when/if ad money dips or plateaus and they turn their eye to minimizing operating costs.
Are they going to revert the changes in a few weeks when Musk loses interest? Seems like a huge loss of website traffic for some Elon virtue signaling.
It did happen before the IPO. It’s been happening for several years. They have not been doing mass bans all at once. They’ve been surreptitiously taking down subreddits over the years. Mostly smaller ones that woujldn’t draw much attetnion. Looks like they went for the bigger targets now.
This isn’t a sudden change to ideologically align with the current US administration either. They have been at this for a long time.
The subs are back up for the record. According to an admin, it was a glitch.
The glitch being they got caught and people complained
How were they ever not getting “caught” lol
Eh no need to get tin foil hat, imho.
I mean, one has to ask why they were setting up automated banning of these subreddits in the first place.
The reason for all of them was unmoderated. So it seems to me like they have/are testing a method to auto ban unmoderated subs. Not that crazy, imho.
Then why weren’t there loads more “unmoderated” subs of different categorize blocked?
If it was just a glitch, I suspect that the affected subreddits would better represent a random distribution of topics than what we witnessed.
A glitch is when something doesn’t work as you expect it to. I don’t know why you’d suspect any kind of behaviour from a glitch. Glitches can do all kinds of crazy shit.
To be clear, I’m speculating on what tool they may actually be working on.
I’m aware of what a glitch is. What I’m saying is that they are already targeting these specific subs regardless of their moderation status. The only ‘glitch’ here was that they got caught pushing an agenda.
If they are really testing things like that, it’s quite worrying that they did it on the production server…
Huffman was probably in a huge hurry to gargle Elon’s balls.
Thats just regular boring old Incompetence.
subs like r/boobs are unmodded?
Hence the glitch. A glitch is when doesn’t perform as expected or desired.
I see, I assumed trans_surgeries wasn’t a nsfw sub, so I was weary of why it would be in the list with the rest.
😂 like that Facebook “glitch” that banned any inclusive terms and force-followed Trump on people’s profiles? Lol these fuckers
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out they’re making a ban list for all these communities, but the ‘glitch’ was that someone turned it on before whatever PR move/manufactured scandal they were going to use to justify it was ready to go.
Or this was just a test fire to see how people would react.
both I bet
That’s a pretty big glitch. 1. You have a nuclear button. 2. The omega thermal nuclear cluster bombs are pointed at a particular target
Uh huh. Like the glitch that put T_D on the front page - the entire front page.
One of those funny coincidences that keeps happening.
Lmao, somebody said to do it and got called on the carpet by their shareholders.
Reddit is preparing to surrender to somebody who does not want NSFW content on their site in an attempt to appease advertisers. Possibly Musk.
The anti-porn conservatives have always been about controlling women.
That woman who founded OnlyFans driving around in 10 different Lamborghinis, that’s their worst fucking nightmare.
Before that, it was that one lady whose husband died and then she discovered massive oil reserves under her land.
That kind of stuff is an existential threat to the patriarchy, which conservative control freaks must preserve at any cost.
They cannot allow women to become self-sufficient and thereby self-determinative. Otherwise, who will take care of the men, and raise the men’s babies?
Literally why witch hunts existed. It was just a way for authorities to expropriate the wealth of some random dowager who won’t remarry (and therefore automatically cede all property to her new husband).
Also, frankly, I think sexual repression is just a HUGE part of the control mechanisms these people employ. Basically, “joy” is seen as a “sin” because there should “only be joy in God” or some stupid bull shit. You are supposed to take bride in being as missrable as possible so in the afterlife you will get eternal joy or whatever.
I don’t care about NSFW subs per se, but they’re useful canaries in the coal mine. If they’re gone gone, it’s a fine indicator of what’s about to come next.
No, your canaries are already long dead. It’s long been a process when Reddit admins don’t want a sub to exist but it isn’t actually breaking any rules to laser focus on the moderators, ban them the moment they have an excuse, immediately ban the sub for being unmoderated, refuse to give it to a new mod via reddit request and ban any replacement subs for recreating a banned sub. Hell, r/GamingCircleJerk has been laughing about some right wing gaming memes sub having that done to it just a few weeks ago.
They only care about it not looking like they are just nuking subs they don’t like is because they don’t want to scare off other users who might get antsy about having a community under those sorts of capricious admins.
This sounds a lot like an automation of that process that misfired. That they were all specifically banned for being “unmoderated” is what jumps out to me as telling.
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Normies will still use it, despite that it will be filled mostly with AI content in near future.
Spez: “Daddy Elon wants me to get rid of all the twitter critical and trans related subs. How can I do it without it being too obvious?”
Snoo Lackey: “Easy. What we’ll do is ban a load of morally grey subs like porn and drug related ones along with the twitter critical and trans ones. Then, when the predictable uproar kicks off, we’ll wait awhile then announce it was all a terrible mistake and we’ll reactivate all the porn ones. We just won’t reactivate the twitter critical or trans ones. Because lets be honest - no one really cares and as long as the simpletons have their wank bank back, they’ll neither notice nor care either!”
Spez: “Brilliant!”
Good theory, but it looks like they all came back including the transgender related subs.
OK but how the FUCK did r/forcedcreampie survive the purge?
Under the New Founding Fathers, forced cream pies are ok, willing abortions are not.
Oh that’s the most vile and gut wrenchingly nauseating comment i read all year. Well done and well said.
A baby is a cream pie that has finished cooking.
New Founding Fathers sounds too distinguished. I vote for Foundling Man-babies.
Porn is made by actors who sometimes roleplay scenes that aren’t actually real.
First they came for the NSFW, and I did not speak out—because I was not NSFW.
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Same, when I was a teenager it was Erowid for all my questions, then r/drugs in college. I also loved r/tooktoomuch, which had the best life lessons to offer.
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havent heard of ‘Erowid’ in a minute. Great memories back then, simpler times
I learned so much off ppl tweaking off taking too much, life saver for sure.
Is erowid still good? I have it enshrined in the back of my head as the place for plant info
Erowid is still good, though I wish there was a little more info about current operations and projects outside of maintaining the experience report database. As far as I can tell, both Erowid Monthly and Erowid Extracts are dead, Ask Erowid is dead, DrugsData is not currently receiving samples, etc.
There’s reason to play some stuff close to the chest, obviously, but there used to be more activity than just the experience database, and it’s sad to see the other functions languish. But as a repository of drug information it’s still pretty great.
A newer good harm reduction/info site is tripsit.me, which also has a trip sit via chat service. Can’t speak to the quality of the chat service, over something like the Fireside Project which has been around for a while now, but the infosheets on tripsit are pretty good.
Edit: Ugh, going through the other Erowid sections again…beginning to think I need to step up and see if they want more volunteers. Lots of dead links where Wayback can probably help a ton, the Character vault can probably be expanded quite a bit, etc. But this all might just be the focus moving on a bit. I just wanted to see Ralph Metzner’s blog, since you hear so much about Tim Leary and Ram Dass but Metzner was right there with 'em.
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It’s still there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/drugs/
but,
“Proceed with caution”
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1iiahsz/looks_like_we_are_back_from_the_ban/
“Looks like we are back from the ban!”
That’s so sad. It was not a sub to sell anything but to help and comfort those who need it in this space.
Wonder how this move went for tumble
Same as it went for HDDVD, Laserdisc, and BetaMax.
To be fair I don’t think that many people go to Reddit for porn. With Tumblr it seemed almost exclusive. But it’s still an odd move.
Porn on Reddit used to be good but has been awful since the rise of OnlyFans. Now almost every post on porn subreddits is someone shilling their onlyfans using the same 5 second tease clips across dozens of tenuously related subreddits. If the exodus happens to Lemmy, that is what it will be here.
OF killed good amateur porn
Edit: Boobs is banned because it was unmoderated apparently. i haven’t checked the others in the OPs list. i’ve logged into my porn account and there’s plenty of large and small porn subreddits still around so i don’t think this was a porn purge
OF killed good amateur porn
As I have seen it pointed out, it’s not just that, although it is a huge part of it. Another, sadly, is that there was so much uncontrolled porn floating around the internet, much of it was pretty fucked up - involuntarily filmed and/or published without consent, not traceable, even with very unclear ages, etc., etc.
So as a secondary effect, that I think is highly positive, most sites also just don’t allow for non-verified content, or at least are much better at removing anything remotely suspicious. That leaves the OF stuff as the main non-studio-produced source, as it allows for easy, professional verifications.
You don’t have to be verified to to post nudes on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/boobs/ is not banned.
it was at the time i wrote that comment (hence the screenshot). Reddit since came out and said there was an error. most of the banned subreddits are now back up
Fair enough, and reddit might ban nsfw again, so your reply was/is quite warranted.
Why does anyone go anywhere?
To be exploited in the same way in a different location.
Yeah this worked out great for OnlyFans, Tumblr, and Flickr. At least OnlyFans was smart enough to remember which side their bread was buttered on.
the tumblr one is so funny because yahoo promised not to screw it up and then they did
And now there’s still tons of NSFW content, they just started labeling it as NSFT (not safe for Tumblr) to get around the auto censors
My experience is that modern NSFW on tumblr is just porn bots. You used to get really nice, high quality slutty art for whatever TV show or movie character tripped your trigger. Now they have an Ai bot that’s trained itself to flag black and white sfw sketches but not straight up literal tiddy drop videos with spam links below them.
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All thanks to Apple’s censorship of their forced App Store, which is arguably the worst thing to ever happen to computing. Zero percent joking.
What would be left if onlyfans got rid of porn? Wtf. I’m not paying to watch someone fix rust on their car.
I’m watching someone fix the rust on their car, sexually.
I think that was temporary and something to do eith their parent company or payment processor and not a real policy change, but I may be misremembering.
Exactly.
