• djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    19 days ago

    Wild to see this fervor after a white woman was killed, this is like the fourth or fifth time ICE has murdered someone in a year but now our “worst fears have been realized.” They certainly weren’t an anti-civilian paramilitary when they were fucking raiding American ghettos with helicopters and kidnapping people in unmarked vans off the streets. We don’t care about that, obviously, but now they’ve crossed a line!

    This country fucking sucks.

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      18 days ago

      His policies have killed millions. Stories of white women being brutalized have always pulled at Americans heart strings. We better learn to use it to our advantage, for the sake of everyone.

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        We better learn to use it to our advantage

        While you’re still talking about learning, they’ve already mastered it. Your brutalized white woman is a terrorist in their narrative and people are already buying that.

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        Stories of white women being brutalized have always pulled at Americans heart strings.

        If decades of school kids getting shot in their schools doesn’t motivate Americans to take action, I’m not hopeful that this will either.

        I really want my cynicism to be proven wrong, but after watching the Americans for over 50 years, I don’t expect it will be.

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      18 days ago

      this is like the fourth or fifth time ICE has murdered See, I didn’t even know about this and I like to think I follow US news quite closely. I must have missed it or my brain shorted out because of the constant flood of awful news coming out of that country.

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        18 days ago

        It won’t be, but even if it were; would you really want to fight side by side with someone whose only motivator is fear?

        Sounds like the kinda person who would immediately sell you out to the fascists if they were promised a deal that would protect themselves.

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          18 days ago

          uh yes. why would I care what their motives are if theyre fighting nazis.

          a call to inaction because people aren’t “pure of heart” is dumb.

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      18 days ago

      sorry can you link the others. because I don’t think there’s 13 camera angles for the other ones

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      19 days ago

      I’m not sure there’s actually evidence that the mother of a six year old whose father died two years ago is in fact queer.

      Her wife might dispute that.

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      It’s probably due to the reports talking about either her “partner” or her “wife”.

      Not erasing part of someone’s identity is not confining them to extra boxes.

      Also, queer encompasses bisexual and pansexual, so the fact that she had a child and was married to a man is irrelevant.

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        18 days ago

        Yup. Friend of mine finally cut loose her deadweight husband after 2 kids. She started dating an amazing woman and I’ve never seen her more happy. Luckily she also got custody, and her kids are awesome human beings.

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      18 days ago

      Hard to have a Night of the Long Knives without them and the administration does enjoy that playbook.

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    18 days ago

    ICE and the Heritage Foundation are both government sanctioned domestic terrorist organizations.

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      19 days ago

      eyup. I understood having to control a border but if the payment to do it is this. Then let it go be whatever it will be.

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        I never had to have a passport to visit Canada growing up. Used to cross the Rio Grande with tour groups in Big bend National Park, no border patrol anywhere.

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    “Queer woman?”

    First I’ve heard that, where did that come from? I’ve also heard “devout Christian,” but that seems to come and go. Probably not a lot of “queer devout Christians” out there.

    I’d like to know who she actually was. Her second husband died, so she doesn’t seem to be gay, but what to do I know?

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      18 days ago

      All this bullshit is irrelevant. They shot one of us. In cold blood. Just for being there when they were carrying out their illegal operations. We are all next.

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        No, we have to humanize her, that’s what makes the normally apathetic wake up. They want to define her as a monster, and dehumanize her, so they can rationalize and excuse murdering her.

        We have to remind everybody, especially MAGAs, that she was exactly like them, a mom of 3, a Christian, a widow, etc. When people see that she isn’t the monster they claim, they start to realize who the real monsters are.

        We have seen over and over that Conservatives will shift their opinion when it hits their own life. Dick Cheney, as conservative as any Fascist Nazi, was extremely gay-friendly because he had a gay daughter whom he loved. He could bomb the shit out of foreign brown people because they aren’t real to hom, but he supported gay rights, because gay people were real to him.

        When we get MAGAs to see others as fellow humans, it makes a difference to many. Not all, many MAGAs are unsalvageable psychopaths, but some will respond to this. We have to keep whittling away at their approval ratings, and humanizing their victims is an enormous help.

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          18 days ago

          They want to define her as a monster, and dehumanize her, so they can rationalize and excuse murdering her.

          Right… Unfortunately that’s why they’re calling her queer 😬

          I get what you’re saying, but that’s exactly the opposite of what the media is doing. They are telling the public she wasn’t like them. That she wasn’t Christian, she was a liberal rioter with three children by two men and her lesbian lover beside her in the car when she was out maliciously running over law enforcement in her SUV. Bootlicking Maga chuds with hot jelly in their skulls don’t need much to know a person was evil and deserved to be put down, and so for headlines like this the writers know exactly what they’re doing; boiling this woman’s entire life into one word that shows she’s Not Like Us^TM

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            So… let me make sure I’m understanding you correctly…

            You’re saying the media outlet called “lgbtq nation” described this woman as queer in order to dehumanize her and show people she isn’t like them?

            Kinda strange… Who do you think reads lgbtq nation?

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              Nuance on the word media, not specific to the publication posted here. The media is trying to dehumanize her by calling her queer because to the average MAGA queers are pedophiles wanting to destroy the nation with socialism

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                So is that why the lgbtq nation called her queer? Just curious.

                Cause it seems like right-wing outlets aren’t focusing on her queerness. They’re just calling her a terrorist. Or a “liberal communist,” whatever that is (do they not realize communists hate liberals as much as magas do?)

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                And of course the news and memorials about the queer woman one of their ilk murdered shouldn’t mention the fact she was queer, because that might make the MAGAs celebrate her death more than they did from the second they heard about it.

                If you think this is better than the 90s era ‘don’t mention someone on our side is queer because it’ll make us look bad’ attitude, you are wrong.

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                  jesus what in the pancakes waffles is this? You assumed a lot of things in that last line (and no I don’t think that)

                  I never said they should not use that word I just explained how the media (most of it on US is MAGA related) will use her queerness as a weapon

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            Let’s put a dead queer woman back in the closet, because people that already hate her might still hate her. Oh boy, I can feel the acceptance, it’s totally different from all the homophobia I grew up with!

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              Not wanting someone reduced down to just their sexuality is not shoving them back in the closet and I don’t appreciate the insinuation that I’m prejudiced for calling it out.

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                You yourself are advocating for her sexuality not being mentioned at all! If you were trying to advocate for something else here, it absolutely doesn’t come across.

                Queer people are constantly erased in death, by prejudiced family and media. Reconsider supporting or saying anything resembling that, such as by going ‘oh no why did the headline of a queer news site have to mention she was queer??’

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                  I wasn’t advocating anything, I was explaining why the news media plastering her sexuality in every headline is an attempt to dehumanize her and send a message to those both inside and outside the mentioned minority. I apologize if it came across to you as queer erasure, that was definitely not what I was going for, but I do understand now how that’s how it could come across, so thank you for that.

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      Probably not a lot of “queer devout Christians” out there.

      Many, many more than you’d think. Plenty of denominations have no problem with queer people. Even the Catholic church has walked back a lot of their anti-queer messaging in the last decade.

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    18 days ago

    ice has always been anti-immigration paramilitary force for both parties, they hire the exact people that usually hate immigrants in general, otherwise no normal citizens are going to do it, it just that DRUMPF lowered the bar so much that anyone can join.

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    man, if on she had seen this coming and said something about how the dnc was fucking americans out of a fair election. but it was all soooo unpredictable… /s