• misk@piefed.social
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    3 months ago

    I use TikTok as a replacement for old school YouTube, as in stumble upon small content creators where you can actually engage with the author. Even video length cap is now similar to old YouTube (it’s been ages since cap was increased). Lots of quirky stuff, like a guy in drag doing 80s soap operas. Not sure if it’s available everywhere but in EU we get „following only” type of feed too.

    Algorithm will feed you misinformation and brainrot if you engage with that type of content (which includes debating people in comments). I just don’t.

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      3 months ago

      Thinking the algorithm will only show you what you what you’re engaged with is wearing rose tinted glasses.

      It’s another for profit social media that will harvest as much data they can from you to sell and to target you with ads and misinformation.

      At least you can block YouTube ads on all platforms.

      If you care about creators go to platforms like Mastodon and Peertube and support them directly.

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        3 months ago

        Thinking the algorithm will only show you what you what you’re engaged with is wearing rose tinted glasses.

        And that’s why I recommend „following” feed with „for you page” used mostly for discovery (which is way ahead of everyone else, YouTube, Instagram or Peertube).

        It’s another for profit social media that will harvest as much data they can from you to sell and to target you with ads and misinformation.

        I didn’t give unnecessary permissions to the app. They can watch how I behave which is fine. It’s a commercial enterprise that has to make money to be able to afford streaming videos at this scale.

        At least you can block YouTube ads on all platforms.

        All ads I see are skippable.

        If you care about creators go to platforms like Mastodon and Peertube and support them directly.

        You go ahead and convince normies to move to some obscure platform while I enjoy life.

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          And that’s why I recommend „following” feed with „for you page” used mostly for discovery (which is way ahead of everyone else, YouTube, Instagram or Peertube).

          You are still training their algorithm and Ai. The “for you page” is purely based off your data and optimized to hide their slop inside a package that was tailored to appeal to you. That’s fucked up.

          They can watch how I behave which is fine.

          Fuck off with that shit. That is absolutely not fine and tells me you have no idea about privacy or how much data they are extracting from invading your life.

          All ads are skippable

          All ads are unacceptable. Especially targeted ads. You should look into how ad space bidding works.

          You go ahead and convince normies to move to some obscure platform while I enjoy life.

          Didn’t realize I was talking to a normie here on the obscure defederated platform Piefed lol

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            3 months ago

            You are still training their algorithm and Ai. The “for you page” is purely based off your data and optimized to hide their slop inside a package that was tailored to appeal to you. That’s fucked up.

            I’m the end user of that algorithm, I don’t mind that they’re training it on my behaviour because they do it better than others. Everyone can see my behaviour on Lemmy and train their sexbots on that too.

            All ads are unacceptable. Especially targeted ads. You should look into how ad space bidding works.

            I’d pay for something like YouTube Premium but given that that’s not an option and streaming video is kinda expensive I’m okay with flicking ads away. I still want to engage with society I live in so I use things other people use, and generally there are ads there. I don’t care that companies buying ads get scammed because why would I?

            Didn’t realize I was talking to a normie here on the obscure defederated platform Piefed lol

            I meant normie creators on other platforms.

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              3 months ago

              I’m the end user

              Fuck no you are not. You are the product being sold, the advertisers are the end user.

              Everyone can see my behaviour on Lemmy

              Tell me you don’t understand consent without telling me that you don’t understand it. The content you willingly post to Lemmy/piefed is public. The data harvesting that platforms like TikTok and Facebook isn’t consensual, let alone ethical or needed to run these platforms.

              I don’t care the companies buying ads get scammed

              What don’t you get, they are part of the scam. You are the target. You are the one getting fleeced and whored out for targeted ads.

              I meant normie creators on other platforms

              I’m not on other platforms discussing this. This conversation is on piefed. A decentralized network with no ads and no corporate rulers. People here should be smart enough to get it.

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                Fuck no you are not. You are the product being sold, the advertisers are the end user.

                I’m fairly sure I’m not the intended target because I don’t watch ads. When they come up they are clearly labeled and skippable without any delay, similar to any other video you watch there. Currently most of the ads I’m shown are laughably bad scams pretending to be TikTok. Not really an issue for me since I’m not a boomer or GenZ.

                Tell me you don’t understand consent without telling me that you don’t understand it. The content you willingly post to Lemmy/piefed is public. The data harvesting that platforms like TikTok and Facebook isn’t consensual, let alone ethical or needed to run these platforms.

                I’m giving my consent for creation of sex bots based on my behaviour freely. Both to Piefed and TikTok. I do not consent to creating sex bots based on my Lemmy activity but it’s entirely beyond my control unfortunately.

                What don’t you get, they are part of the scam. You are the target. You are the one getting fleeced and whored out for targeted ads.

                Again, why would I care? Usually after whoring around it’s my gaping anus that hurts but this seems fairly painless.

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                  I’m fairly sure I’m not the intended target because I don’t watch ads.

                  Sigh. Yes you are. You have an advertising profile being constantly made about you and updated based on your activity and the ad spaces you see regardless if you watch or not have already been sold and bought by one of these corporations targeting you based on your advertising profile.

                  I’m giving consent for *the creation of sex bots based on my behaviour freely.

                  Once again, tell me you don’t understand what you are consenting to nor what kinds of information they collect on you without telling me that you are ignorant.

                  TikTok:

                  Voyager:

                  Why would I care? Usually after whoring around it’s my gaping anus that hurts but this seems fairly painless.

                  Heya champ. Return the phone back to your parents and attach yourself back on your drip fed brainrot feed and leave the conversation here on decentralized platforms to the adults that do care about freedom from corporate greed and those of us that want to keep our attention spans intact.

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                    3 months ago

                    Sigh. Yes you are. You have an advertising profile being constantly made about you and updated based on your activity and the ad spaces you see regardless if you watch or not have already been sold and bought by one of these corporations targeting you based on your advertising profile.

                    Fair, for otherwise free video streaming platform. This stuff is expensive to run.

                    Once again, tell me you don’t understand what you are consenting to nor what kinds of information they collect on you without telling me that you are ignorant.

                    You’re prompted to give permission to those. You can refuse. For a time TikTok tried their best to ask me for it annoyingly often but it hasn’t for years now. Voyager doesn’t collect anything but almost everything you do through it is public for anyone to use.