• octopus_ink@slrpnk.netdeleted by creatorOPEnglish
    1154·
    1 年前

    Frankly, he may win because of them. It’s like a crazy political Streisand-effect thing they are doing with him I swear to god. I wouldn’t know who he is if not for how the corporatist Dems have treated him, and I suspect it helped his primary win, too.

    • Steve
      2·
      11 個月前

      I bet this guy will be known to history as the founder of the new left political party

  • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    577·
    1 年前

    They’re fighting Trump though! I’ve peeked a couple of times at the Democrat subreddit and it’s always “some democrat saying some MEAN one-liner towards Trump during some hearing! #resist”.

    50 more of those one-liners and Trump will feel soooo bad and quit being a president, which will fix literally everything (great man theory)!

    • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
      15·
      1 年前

      Rhetoric is important though. The tools that a politician has are their rhetoric and their votes, and Republicans aren’t going to give them the chance to do much with those votes.

      One liners are exactly what won the government for the Republicans, that and weak-ass Democrats. I’m thrilled that Democrats seemed to have learned the value of one liners, but their rhetoric is still weak. That’s the problem.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    556·
    1 年前

    I’m not going to get excited until Mamdani wins and actually does what he promises. Speeches and vocal support aren’t worth anything anymore.

    Still, solid meme that makes a good point.

      • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 年前

        Yes, but Mamdani has shown his willingness to fight for us. Even if he can’t pull off all his agenda, it’s still better than the alternative candidates who won’t even try.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
        164·
        1 年前

        It may just be me, but Mamdani just reminds me very much of 2007-2008 Obama, who himself was massively popular and saying all the right things, and then opted to rule as a conservative and helped usher along US fascism in the end.

        • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
          23·
          1 年前

          I feel Mamdani might be different since he openly and unflinchingly said he doesn’t like capitalism, something that many politicians are afraid to do. And he is a member of DSA which Obama isn’t a member of so that is something of a solid credential for Mamdani. But only time will tell if he sticks to his promises and conviction.

          • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
            102·
            1 年前

            He’s saying a lot of the right things.

            The question is what he’ll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama’s answer to that was: “I’ll do whatever you want.”

            • buttnugget@lemmy.worldBanned
              9·
              1 年前

              Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy.

              Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy.

            • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
              51·
              1 年前

              Did Obama actually said that? I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can’t be the good guy and be president.

              Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer.

              Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that’s not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court.

              • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
                82·
                1 年前

                Did Obama actually said that?

                Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into ‘access to health care’, which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance.

                Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead.

                Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history.

                • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  1 年前

                  only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance.

                  The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars.

                  I said “5000 dollars a year? that seems high”

                  they said “Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month”

                  I said “Goodbye” and hung up.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 年前

        Nothing inspires apathy like the 40 years of Democrats doing the wrong thing and making it so food and shelter are cost-prohibitive for tens of millions.

        I’ll believe Mamdani is the real deal when he shows me. It’s unreasonable to expect Democrats to do the things they say they’re going to do.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      432·
      1 年前

      Their problem is not what he’s doing, it’s how he’s doing it: He’s too obvious, which increases the risk of a popular backslash backlash against the billionaires who fund both parties.

      It’s style, not substance.

  • Oida Grantla@discuss.tchncs.de
    291·
    1 年前

    Somehow I understand their reaction… the democrates are afraid that this guy shows the worlds what powergreedy hippocrites they are and how similar they are to the republicans.

    They became the very thing they swore to destroy…

    • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
      255·
      1 年前

      Don’t be shocked if he loses. I wouldn’t put it past even Democrats to help the Republicans rig that election. Worse case they see he will win even with all the rigging that Trump sends ICE and bam he off to El Salvador. Democrats will quietly cheer.

      I have no hope in our politicians saving us and damn sure not in voting our way out of fascism. Until we rise up collectively and realize this a class war. Us vs Billionaires nothing going change.

      I do hope he wins and turns over all the dominos but on the other hand. I seen to many so called progressive like him. Who after they won they fall in line with the party.

      We need more Luigis and I hope he wins and sticks to his principals. Guess we will see. But I am not getting my hopes up anymore.

      • buttnugget@lemmy.worldBanned
        15·
        1 年前

        Considering what happened in Buffalo with India Walton, you’re absolutely right to be concerned. For anyone who doesn’t know, Walton successfully challenged Buffalo mayor Byron Brown in the Democratic primary, but he colluded with Republicans and ran as a write-in candidate in the general election and beat her.

      • Oida Grantla@discuss.tchncs.de
        91·
        1 年前

        The problem ist still the people that vote.

        In Germany our last government was a coalition of social democrates and the green party. The actual majority party is the “christian” conservatives again after the green party did a lot they had promised that was the right direction but shook the peoples minds. A lot was done with good intensions but rushing forward with blind actionism.

        Also some politicians needed some “time to acclimate” to political reallity.

        And of course our version of the MAGA jokels… instead of concentrating on the real problems… they constantly shit on peoples weight or youth.

  • El_guapazo@lemmy.world
    324·
    1 年前

    It’s the party of status quo. Appeasement while they court the progressives and disallow the progressives to run for office

    • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      13·
      1 年前

      Now that Newsom’s pushing through the redistricting vote there’s a chance some actual progressives can run in the new districts. If they’re brazen enough they can gain some power but only if they fight for it.

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
    244·
    1 年前

    A vast majority of Democrats support Mamdani, in legislative chambers state and federal and especially in polls. That’s why Zohran Mamdani IS A DEMOCRAT.