Seems a little odd that the fediverse uses Cloudfare.

  • ohshit604@lemmy.halstead.host
    21·
    13 days ago

    Seems a little odd that the fediverse uses Cloudfare.

    You need to be more descriptive, use in what regard? Both are capable DNS providers but as far as I’m aware, Cloudflare is also a domain registrar.

    Also each instance of Lemmy is configured differently, perhaps Lemmy.zip uses cloudflare but that isn’t the case for every instance of Lemmy.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
      7·
      13 days ago

      Yeah the mentioned capcha features of CloudFlare are a reverse proxy & caching CDN they provide; Quad9 is a DNS resolver only AFAIK.

      Cloudflare also provides DNS resolving, but this isn’t something that a fediverse instance can put between itself and the user (that’s DNS hosting, which would probably be set up in connection with the aforementioned reverse proxy and CDN services)

      Some folks are commenting here that they have had Quad9 issues with reliability; if true that’s a recent occurrence as I used them for years as a resolver without issue (been using my ISP as a DNS resolver for about 2 years now as I’ve moved and haven’t had the ability to set up my old servers in my new location. Soon, I hope!)

  • Jul@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    12·
    13 days ago

    Quad9 is only a DNS server and I do use that for all of my servers as do many others. It doesn’t provide domain registration, domain dns configuration, proxies, tunnels, etc, that Cloudflare does.

  • Brujones@lemmy.world
    5·
    14 days ago

    I’ve never been able to chase it down, but Apple devices on my network always seem to have issues accessing some sites when using quad 9 for DNS. No problems with cloudflare, though. 🤷‍♂️

      • Brujones@lemmy.world
        4·
        13 days ago

        Thanks! I’ll give that a shot. I didn’t do much troubleshooting because other devices could access those sites just fine using 9.9.9.9, so I figured it was something weird in Apple’s system.

  • normonator@lemmy.ml
    41·
    13 days ago

    I used to use quad 9 but stopped using it after running into too many issues where it provided completely wrong results. Like not even outdated results just straight up wrong values that never existed, with both public websites as well as customer dns entries that I have managed for over a decade.

      • Agent641@lemmy.world
        2·
        13 days ago

        Registrar, nameserver, hosting provider, reverse proxy, authentication provider, they do lots of things now.

      • normonator@lemmy.ml
        2·
        13 days ago

        Yes but I wasn’t using CloudFlare at all. The domains were registered with Tucows and only quad9 had incorrect DNS lookups.

    • Jul@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      13 days ago

      That’s odd, never had that issue and I’ve used it a long time. Even for my own domains changes propagate as quickly as any other DNS server I’ve used. Were your changes propagated to google, cloud flare, and the rest? Anyway, very weird since DNS propagation is pretty automated usually unless something is not propagating to any DNS server.

      • normonator@lemmy.ml
        2·
        13 days ago

        Everything else has correct results except for them. Some of the entries were years since being changed, then all of a sudden pointed elsewhere. Quick to troubleshoot but quite annoying.

        I haven’t used them since. Troubleshooting that kind of shit is not what I want to be spending my time on.

    • Admirable_Bagel_0989@lemmy.ml
      3·
      14 days ago

      Yes, quad9 is a DNS provider, meaning the way to configure quad9 as your DNS provider is the same as configuring cloudflare but instead of 1.1.1.1 it’s 9.9.9.9 (hence the name quad9)

      edit: if you’re using android or a browser (or really anything that uses DNS over https), the URLs are different, but you can find more info at https://quad9.net/

  • ratatouille@feddit.orgDeutsch
    1·
    9 days ago

    I had several cases where suddenly Websites not work. after a lot of tests. I was only able to solve it because I changed the DNS back to the provider DNS. I never found what it caused. Then I changed it back. that worked some Weeks, then i had again Problems. Now I use again and permanent the provider dns.

  • Eggman@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    1·
    12 days ago

    Cloudfare have many service a dns resolver is one of them. Quad9 only provide a dns resolver. When you visit a website and see Cloudfare thats has nothing to do with their dns resolver that is a complitly different service they provide to protect against ddos attacks.