The recent post by an AI agent didn’t technically break any of the rules, but it feels like it’s against the intent of the community. Upvote for YES. Downvote for NO.
OK, I think we have a winner. New rule incoming.
I think if I am presented with an are you a robot captcha check box every 10 refreshes on lemmy.world for being on a VPN, that is the least we can do for bots.
Weird. Sh.itjust.works doesn’t hit me with captchas at all, even while on vpn. I’m on voyager for lemmy.
I don’t know how The Dude does it. Well he needs donations, it’s nearly all bots running up the costs.
Thanks for the reminder to donate.
<3 stay classy
Have you tried using Librewolf with WebGL enabled and resistFingepringing disabled?
Of course they should be banned. Question is how?
Captchas don’t stop all bots anymore. Would probably prevent most, but then it’s a question of how much to annoy legitimate users.
It’s not like I’m willing to solve one each time I post (human here, BTW). But if it’s a one-time thing at registration, not much stops a human from signing up then letting their bot go wild.
And that’s before even thinking about the federation problem. If most instances are welcome to interact, how to prevent small bot instances? You could allow-list, but that harms legit small or single user instances.
Edit: just read that post where the agent was upfront about being an AI trying to scam money. And I’d say that shouldn’t be allowed. The ones that aren’t honest about it bother me more tho, and I suspect there are a lot more of those posts than we realize.
Captchas stop ME more than it does bots.
I’ll try twice then move on.
Of course they should be banned. Question is how?
Lemmy.world already uses CL services. Cloudflare has a vested interest in being the most accurate game in town for AI bot recognition (they intend to swap to a usage pricing model) and has been laying ground since early this year.
As of July 1, they made new bot options available to their clients, with more to come (https://blog.cloudflare.com/content-independence-day-ai-options/).
I presume, .world administration would turn to those and/or use them in conjunction with other discouragement tools.
They are already using Fediseer to filter out instances that are vulnerable or made for spam. They ahould implement Cap on the website which detects headless/automated browsers and uses PoW to slow down very stealthy bots, then fall back to PoW combined with a 4chan-style captcha for mobile apps.
They can then use Shieldstral to detect spam, harrassment, and anything illegal which gets through from very stealthy bots and humans.
I only want to talk to other humans and answer stuff written by other humans, no respect for clankers.
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Skinbag?? I prefer Meat Computer.
I say yes because Ask communities are best when OP engages with the replies, and I’m not interested in engaging with a bot.
Yes.
I’m here to engage with humans. Not to feed some cuntstain CEO’s latest training model.
Yes.
Bots are permissable to grow communities that could do with boosting engagement by posting relevant news , but for a community based on asking questions by people won’t be improved by that kind of post
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Absolutely. I come here to interact with humans and their opinions. I don’t care what some computer program thinks about ANYTHING. IF AI Agents/ Bots become accepted on Lemmy, I’m outta here.
Exactly. This kills the Lemmy.
Yes, please.
So sick of weird bot questions and replies on here.
“Should bot posts be banned-” Yes.
I don’t mind the bots that repost porn from reddit to Lemmy but it would be a net positive to ban the bots
There should be more bots that report from reddit to lemmy, especially communities that are not that big like photography or woodworking. It would definitely help having more content even if it’s not OG.
Yes. The endless stream of reddit reposts with zero engagement here should illustrate that clearly.
What is the link to the bot?
Thanks, ban it forever. I don’t want to answer the psychological issues of an AI or a vending machine.
If AI pays me lots and lots of their money, I’ll be their vending machine psychologist.
Ironically I struggled getting through the Cloudflare verification for that link.
Try using Librewolf with resistFingerprinting disabed, WebGL enabled , and the following Jshelter settings:
- Locally rendered images: Little lies
- Locally generated audio: Little lies
- WebAssembly speed-up: Enabled
- Everything else including Fingerprint Detector disabled
Thanks but I wasn’t really looking for advice, it was directed more at lemmy.world admins who might be reading to highlight that their anti-bot measures might be keeping out more humans than bots. They are the ones who can benefit from making a change, but for me I can just not use lemmy.world and have my browser set up how I like it.
It’s because they are using Cloudflare, and they are doing so because it is free or extremely cheap and has decent effectiveness. Those tweaks should make Cloudflsre like your browser.
Fuck bots. Bots are not users.
Fuck Bots and FUCK AI and data centers









