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  • TimeNaan@lemmy.world
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    European soccer hooligans are some of the worst people on the continent. Also majority of them are fascists, especially in eastern europe.

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      There’s a swiss football team near us that has fans that all wear khaki trousers and black shirts and they march instead of singing and waving scarves. Creepy as hell.

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    I hope the hosting stadium sends the bill, local authorities find the perpetrators and all business get insurance to pay out. Also i hope some researcher shows how much more expensive hosting a football match becomes because of these ‘supporters’, and that these costs are charged beforehand somehow.

  • blackberry28@sh.itjust.works
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    ‘Ultras’ of any football club should be categorized as domestic terror groups or whatever. No matter the country, all they do is just smear graffiti, destroy public property, be drunk, starting fighta and being generally obnoxious POS. Football clubs should be liable for any damage those mfs do. And if that means that they need to raise ticket prices, good. Maybe this will discourage those mfs from going to the stadium.

    • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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      Exactly.

      People don’t join these groups because they like football.

      They join because they want to get drunk, fight, and smash things up, and need an ‘excuse’ to do that, and similar people to do it with.

  • Epzillon@lemmy.world
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    Every day I wake up and feel the immense happiness of knowing that standing up for myself through the 10 years of elementary school and ignoring all of the football guys (90% of the guys at my tiny ass rural school) made me a better person.

    Jokes aside, as a swede it is horrible knowing our own football fans behave this way. I sure hope authorities take responsibility and pay for this. These fans shouldnt be allowed to attend games.

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    Obviously destruction of property is an inappropriate response to any soccer result, but this is particularly baffling because European soccer isn’t in season. They did this for a friendly? I mean a coupla-few stickers maybe, but what kind of celebrating or bad blood are you having after a friendly?

    • aldhissla@piefed.world
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      There doesn’t have to be a reason to any of this. Hooligans cause damage any chance they get. They do this at home too. They are permanently at war with everyone and everything.

      They’re pests. You don’t reason with cockroaches.

    • Mindful@lemmy.world
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      The qualifiers for Europa league/conference league etc. has already started. This was a conference league qualifier game.

  • IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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    It never seems to be a great time for the surrounding infrastructure when a huge amount of people congregate, but it really does feel like sports events bring the worst…

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        Have you seen Göteborg? It’s a permanent shithole so damage like this wouldn’t look out of place.

  • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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    As a Swede I find this utterly embarrassing, and more than mildly infuriating. These are just criminals who use football as an excuse to hate on society.

  • M137@lemmy.today
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    Swede here (and from GBG, Gothenburg), and I can only say I’m sorry for the shit stains that did this. I have no interest in sports so I really had no idea this was something that could happen. Fuck every single person who took part in this, they don’t represent us as a country and city at all. I hope you hate them for them, not the whole country and city. And I, and I’m absolutely certain most of us, share the absolutely deserved hate towards the people who did this. I hope there’s some way to get names and make those public, I’d love to make them feel unwelcome in their own home. They should get jail time for vandalism.

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    This and players pretending to be injured on the field is why of all the sports in the world football has by far the worst reputation in my mind.

    • Lauchmelder@feddit.org
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      it’s kind of tragic, because smaller clubs with smaller fan communities are some of the most lovely people

  • lambipapp@lemmy.world
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    Man, as someone who lives near Gothenburg. I am so so sorry for my neighbors. Football brings out the worst of some. I love Tallin so this makes me really really sad

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    I’m so sorry and ashamed of those Swedes. Tallin is such a beautiful city. I hope the Estonian police can gather enough data and share it with Swedish police to identify and prosecute those idiots.

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        There was a a daycare that was annoyed by parents that were always late to pick up their kids. This was a problem because it meant the staff would have to work late. So they decided to charge a fine when parents showed up late. Problem solved, right?

        Parents were tardy more often after the fine were put in place.

        The reason was that people who felt bad about their poor behavior no longer felt bad when they were compensating someone for it.

        The Swedish fans pay for tickets which support the team. The ticket prices would go up when they behave this way. But we shouldn’t assume that it would be a deterrent. They might think that because they pay higher ticket prices, they now have permission to behave poorly.

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          Fair point, but I think it could be managed with the right model. It does not have to be a flat “replace the proven material damages” fine. There could be fixed (large) fines for any kind of significant misbehavior on top the the material damages, multiplication factors can be applied to material damages and adjusted until an effect kicks in, fines can be increased with repeat offenses, …

          At some point clubs will just go bankrupt if they don’t take action against this.

          Alternatively, instead of fines give them “yellow cards” or “red cards” depending on severity and ban them from the next game(s) accordingly, counted as an automatic loss in the league or tournament. Clubs will care about that a lot, same as most parents who might not care about paying a fine will care a lot about losing their daycare spot, if only for a short time.

  • Sunkblake@lemmy.world
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    Damn, as a Swedish person. I’m sorry our football hooligans are a problem even here. I don’t known it was that bad though.