Competence and responsibility mean nothing to republicans. Words mean nothing to them. They have no consistent beliefs and their lives are controlled by their erratic emotions and bigoted preconceptions.
Society cannot function while people like that have any control over anything, and in the USA they are disproportionately represented in our government.
Obama pulled it off because Iran had significant geopolitical leverage and he wasn’t dumb enough to confront them with direct escalatory military action (he still used Stuxnet) like Trump was.
He had no issues carpet bombing Afghanistan because they didn’t have any military power that could oppose the USA.
Even for Trump, the real deviation from the standard Uncle Sam treatment was this year’s crapshow. Last year’s operation midnight hammer could have happened under any president for the past 3 decades and no one would’ve blinked an eye.
Also, “everyone” is conveniently ignoring that invading and bombing iran has been a bipartisan wet dream since the islamic revolution took place. I assume almost every american politician is probably gooning every day to the images of burned bodies tbh
Did Obama conduct carpet bombing? A quick google search indicates it was mostly conducted in the early stages straight after 9/11 under Bush
What? Soft power? Negotiation? Breaking bread with our (fr)enemies? Nah, we don’t do that here. Besides, how else are people going to know that we’re big, tough, and strong? /s
“Everyone has a plan until they’re punched in the face.”
Corollary: Nobody has a plan when punching people in the face doesn’t work.
we used to be so bug and strong we didn’t have to punch people in the face dammit
also i’m keeping it
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Yes but he’s a black democrat so it doesn’t matter
Yes, that’s because Obama had a fucking healthy brain and body.
Trump is demented and dying in front of us.
Great job, Republicans. You owned your own country and deteriorated the world (which you and everyone you love live in) in order to own the libs.
Fucking goddamn idiotic numbskulled dumbasses. Every fucking one of them. Absolutely braindead, worm-brained, self-destructive assholes. I genuinely hope history destroys every one of them.
I’ll never forget, will you?
Republicans have absolutely no clue how the past few months damaged America’s reputation in the world. Especially in Arabic countries and Europe the trust in America has gone from an already low level to absolute zero. Every country which isn’t absolutely braindead tries to cut ties with the US as fast as possible. This is a loss of soft power which made the US dominate the world and might never be repairable even with a sane president. America’s decline is accelerating because of that down the line, long after Trump has left this world.
He was smart enough to drone strike children and got americans to think he’s a nice guy. Or americans are just dumb and or don’t care
Tis not former
Too bad he didn’t cause any meaningful change to the DNC and immediately dissappeared after his term letting the party flounder without a real direction. We’re still feeling the effects of his lack of leadership. He was the disruption candidate that forgot to disrupt.
What was he supposed to do? He gave us 8 years of competent leadership. One deserves retirement.
Make meaningful change in the DNC. You know, like my comment said. Look what Trump did to the RNC. He completely reshaped that party. Obama left it floundering so he can make money giving speeches.
I feel like you’re giving WAY too much credit to Trump. Did Trump change the RNC? Or was he just the catalyst that allowed the RNC to become what they always wanted to become? All he did was rally the base like no other politician on either side really has. The RNC just saw that as an opportunity.
Yes, he did that much to change the RNC. He put his daughter in law as the head of the RNC so he could threaten to primary people that didn’t do what he wants. He did that during the time he wasn’t president…
I guess I just disagree. IMO, that’s not his responsibility.
Cheers, mate!
That’s fair, but what is the point of hiring a leader of a party if they’re not going to lead that party? The democrats have had that problem since I’ve been alive. They seem to always just hope some charismatic person arises instead having a true direction. It’s an inherent problem with being a “big tent” party. Trying to please everyone you end up pleasing no one.
No, that is his only responsibility. He was a servant of the people, not the other fucking way around.
And he served the people until his term ended, no?
That’s something that could be debated. He didn’t do many of the things he campaigned on. Gitmo is still going… He was a massive let down for the people that voted for him to be a disruptor.
Alright, fair enough…but comparatively… lol
I was in the Finance Industry during the 2008 Crash and its aftermath.
The way Obama unconditionally saved the Asset Owners, refused to fully restore the Regulation of the Industry that had stopped crashes like that from happenning (until none other than Clinton repealed it) and made mainly workers pay for it all (which is why inequality has exploded since), was not “competent leadership”.
Unless you think that when a leader of a nation sacrifices the many to save the few from their own massive fuck-up that’s “competency”.
And don’t get me started on his droning campaign were so many civilians were killed that Obama changed the definition of Enemy Combatant to be all men ages 16 to 60, so that they didn’t count as collateral casualties.
Obama was a veritable political songbird, his song beautiful and inspiring - great communicator, impeccable image management. What he was not was compentent, at least not at representing the interests of all, or even just most, of the citizens of the country he was president of.
(I suppose you could say that he was competent at some things, though not at being a President).
Supposedly, and I’m not making any claim on the veracity of this, there was a decision on whether to prioritize healthcare or accountability for the financial industry, and they went with the former. That’s their story anyway
It would’ve been a more believable claim if the outcome was Universal Healthcare rather than some small tweaks on the existing system that did not in any way, form or shape solve the probem.
Agreed
The healthcare plan they prioritized was developed by the Heritage Foundation, on behalf of insurance providers. Mitt Romney actually ran on implementing basically the exact same bill.
Agreed
He’s also been happy to help rehabilitate bush and is now being pro republicans staying around as a party.
Hell in office he was more than happy to continue bushs programs and agendas
He probably disappeared because the DNC was still propping up Hillary Clinton and she was running the show. Remember 2008 was supposed to be Hillary’s year, Obama came out of nowhere during the primaries, he was just a one term senator. So the DNC and Hillary probably felt that Obama swiped the presidential seat from under their nose. Obama gave Hillary Secretary of State as a peace offering, but probably wasn’t enough for the DNC and Hillary. I doubt he could have pushed through any meaningfully change when the DNC was adamant on getting Hillary in office.
He had 8 years to do something about it. He used them to help prop her up. Remember he made her Secretary of State. That’s when we got to see what a true war hawk she is.
All because a pedophile doesn’t like us talking about how gross and disgusting he is, and that he’s a rapist and pedophile.
All these people died for that.
They had every chance to call it on a blatant idiot.
Suckers and losers in the service.
did America really take 97% of Iran’s enriched Uranium ?
13 US terrorists
Oh look, a war criminal is rubbing it on another war criminal about how he killed less children.
Raped fewer as well.
He’s outta line, but he’s right
“Service men”? Makes it sound like they are in the peace corps or missionaries. How about “soldier”?
Cause not everyone in the military is a soldier.
Do you have a better word that doesn’t make militaries sound like they’re on some charitable mission
In Germany they’re called citizens in uniform nowadays
servicemen is all branches. soldiers is army, airmen is airforce, etc. they are using precise legal language for the US military. it’s literally the word they chose like, two hundred years ago i think?
Always feels newspeak-adjacent to me, idk
legal language is practically newspeak so you aren’t wrong
Was this before or after giving Iran the $1.7 billion in pallets of cash?
This interview was after Trump gave them the Strait of Hormuz and control of the Persian Gulf.
So this would be after Obama gave Iran back it’s frozen assets followed by years of peaceful trade in the strait in which oil and gasoline where the cheapest ever.
Does that clear up the confusion?
Evil imperialist piece of shit betrayed the people constantly
Not an idiot or a thug one of two I’d believe wasn’t a pedophile wouldn’t cover my drink around moves like a human being speaks actual English in complete coherent sentences kind of an ace diplomat and font of charisma
Idk it irks me that he seems smug about it. Dude your country is fucking disintegrating…
Obama doesn’t care. He and his family are set for life, and if USA becomes to hostile toward them, they’ll move to another NATO country and live like royalty.
Idk about smug, but I do see where you’re coming from.
It’s entirely pointless and definitely irritating to keep hearing ‘when I was in charge we did things differently’ when the bar is as low as it is right now. It does not help, and clearly serves the ego of the speaker. To say as a leader that you did things ‘better’ back then is low hanging fruit and an incredibly poor and patronizing attempt at continuing your role as a leader. Waxing nostalgic about your time as leader does absolutely fuck all to help us out of this, which you of all people have more power than any of us to do. Otherwise this is what it is: lip service and an easy ‘gimme’ he thinks we side with him on.
Don’t get me wrong: he alone cannot pull us out of this, and I agree he indeed contributed to the eventuality we now call reality.
