A silly noble once said,
“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class.”
Business criminals need to be barred from business, and criminal profits returned to the public.
Spez is such a colossal Zuckerberg-wannabe piece of shit. I don’t think any site has fallen farther than Reddit has. What a waste.
*farther
The headline is a bit misleading is it not? There is no evidence of children’s data being used unlawfully. (I mean there might I don’t know what counts as “unlawful”) This is just a fine for Reddit not to follow UKs dystopian ideas in time.
They were relying on users to click I am definitely over 18. So there is by definition no possible way to know if children’s data was being misused except to the extent it obviously was.
Age verification should have been a device side thing. I should be able to set up my kids phone / tablet with their date of birth and if they’re not old enough then they can’t access certain content. That way the only person who needs to verify the age of someone is me.
My ISP shipped with age restriction on by default, (personally I think that’s a stupid default but that’s a separate issue), but although annoying it was easy to get rid of because I’m the account holder. I didn’t have to scan my ID though.
Anyway we all know this has been nothing to do with kids anyway.
This is about GDPR. A German court recently made a similar judgment wrt TikTok, but that is being appealed.
They perma banned me :( bunch of power tripping people over there
Who, the government Reddit
This headline is about them not complying with age verification, which is something I’d agree with. Fuck reddit overall but not their fault in this regard
thats why let your kids use reddit,make them burn money.
but obv this should be the parents choice.As much as I hate Reddit this is just continuation of the UK government steamrolling and destroying the free Internet, ruining the adult experience.
One of the wonders of the Internet was that it was wildly unregulated - if you wanted it and you could disable safesearch you could get it, with the caveat of ISP-enforced content locks on all mobile data subscriptions under the name of a legal child (under 18), workplace and school security and filters, unremovable Safesearch on most search engines etc. Broadband required an adult, who in turn could activate parental controls. I couldnt wait until I turned 18 so I could finally access many sites for porn, news, gaming, forums and anything containing keywords without being blocked. I had a list of proxies for bypassing school filters.
In short there is significant existing protection in place and we know that this is simply more evidence of Orwellian enforcement.
So, the Cyberpolice were never real? 😯
The unregulated internet had literal child porn sites that were available to anyone.
I don’t disagree with some of your points but the “wild West” internet shouldn’t exist in society.
And how the fuck, exactly, are their new laws preventing CP sites from existing?
“There” are all sorts of laws regarding it.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with their in that context.
Well yes, the more CSAM detection and predator hunting, the better. Task forces and, dare I say it, detection programs with algorithms that may or may not include AI learning, are invaluable to eliminating the actually terrible stuff, anything that can’t even be educational.
I believe the Online Safety Act and Chat Control’s sections that tie every user’s real identity to their online actions is not a solution, because when that data gets leaked and/or abused many innocent lives are in danger. I trust the state very little. I trust unidentified malicious hackers even less.
Leaked data doesn’t even need to be dangerous to life. I, like many others, don’t have “nothing to hide”, but I don’t still want my real name next to a list of content I’ve watched from streaming sites. Also I don’t really want my identity tied to this pseudonym, or any other accounts on any platform. There’s a crapload of problems and it would be a heaven for scammers if there was no way to stay at least relatively anonymous around the net.
okay so, first, were the CSAM websites illegal then? is the issue you see one of enforcement, not how the laws are written?
Yes, it has been illegal for quite some time. I’m guessing you are on the younger side?
I’m the 90s clicking a link, even one with a legit looking url, could be a rather risky proposition. On slashdot and the like many of us would deliberately avoid many random links unless someone else commented about it first.
I don’t know i’m gonna have to go in for a closer look
aw damn ya got me
dude i used usenet. goatseing folks happened early 2000s
Strange. I would have figured you would have known what was going on then.
the text only music forums i was on in the 90s strangely didn’t have any problems with csam. it’s all where you congregate.
To be honest it probably did. There’s a whole army of broken heroes behind every social media site whose job it is to block and remove that kind of content. If you didn’t see anything, thank the admins.
The problem with the kinds of people who are into that kind of stuff is that they want to shove it under your nose to make you uncomfortable.
Lol, you don’t understand the internet, good person, but you are the physical embodiment of its current base.
Step 1: Call fraud on a legitimate claim from someone who was there at the time.
Step 2: Boast about your long, prolific history on the Internet to establish your credentials.
Step 3: Double back because you stayed an a strangely singular lane, and as @paul points out, still avoiding getting it.
Keep on keeping on, I guess.
Oh I’m sorry, which government demanded age checks which made kids give away their data to check their ages? Oh yeah.
Because of content. I still can’t find woodworking, amarthome, soccer or F1 content or lemmy, just to name a few. I lurk in incognito mode on reddit for that, so the ads don’t have any data about me.
Cost of doing business to them. Make fines actually hurt and then maybe something will change.
Or just prosecute them criminally, like they do with the pesants
Garbage fine by tyrannical government trying to police what you do online. Stop age verification!
This will surely stop reddit in it’s tracks!
Cheering on websites getting fined for the reason of internet censorship. I know Spez is a prick but I don’t want the UK cracking down on internet privacy.
We must protest against the labour party’s corruption.
Better go buy some reddit gold to help them pay their fine!
If your accound is permabanned, can you even buy any Reddit Gold?
Probably, no clue though
Really waiting for the mass exodus from reddit. It seems like it’s gotten pretty shitty over there the past year or so.
aswell as Youtube,Discord and Twitch
it kinda sucks tho that all my google searches for tech support I have to put site:reddit.com at the end because the rest of the web is shit for support
You can thank walled gardens like Discord for that.
software projects run by gamerz: hosted on discord
also software projects run by gamerz: why is the support channel the same 3 questions over and over again!?
idk, maybe it’s that you host your software support on a platform without discoverability of solutions?
aT lEaSt It’S nOt A fOrUm
This seems like one of those cases where you wish both sides could lose. Reddit are up to no good, but lack of identity document demands isn’t it.
