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If the 360 generation is retro than what is the playstation 2 generation or Windows 95/98 and Ps1 generation? Let alone the Super Nintendo generation.
Retro but older.
So not Classical Period or the Bronze Age?
It’s been longer from now back to the Xbox 360 release as there was from the Xbox 360 release to the NES. Not even the SNES.
Hey hey hey, don’t come here with your logic too make us feel old.
*you’re an aging men, henry!
I thought it was called the 360 because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away.
It was called 360 because they didn’t want to release an Xbox 2 when PS already had 3. So they came up with 360 bullshit because it’s kind of like 3. So now PS are conveniently numbered and I have no idea which Xbox is the newest.
Moonwalk away. Hee Hee.
Dunno if i’ve been whooshed or if you have a poor understanding of geometry, but have a good day either way.
It was a meme when the 360 got released.
Oh, mb then, TMYK
There’s an interesting looking hot dog stand just past it
I’ll only accept a console is retro if you can emulate it playably on a phone.
So the PS3?
It’s 21 years old this year 😭
Take solace that old != obsolete.
I still play Just Cause 2, Fallout 3 and a bunch of 360 GOATs
That’s older than the NES was when the Dreamcast was released.
That particular 360 is the new Xbox 360 that came with the Kinect and is only about 13 years old
Touhou mentioned 🗣 (i am pretty sure thats Sanae Kochiya from Touhou at the bottom panel)
I remember playing the crap out of my xbox360 when I had one. It had such a good library of games.
I played the heck out of my three faulty RoD Xboxes
I’m considering a console as retro if they run on cartridges. All Xboxes are modern consoles.
Switch?
Has game carts and SD card and internal storage are just different kinds of cartridges. 100% retro. Gamecube is the only modern console Nintendo ever put out.
Guys, these consoles are so old I’ve seen these kinds of memes since the PS4 and Xbox One days. I think its time to accept they’re retro
I hate to break it to you but… It’s been over 20 years. It’s more retro now than the SNES was when the 360 came out.
You’re hurting me.
This episode is 30 years old.
No u
Shit, that saying is over 20 years old.
YOLO is now old enough to legally drive a car.
Please stop…
I first heard that one over 15 years ago.
You know that ‘Cleopatra is temporally further away from the Great Pyramid’ thing?
Grand Theft Auto V’s release date is closer to Half Life 2’s release date, than to the present.
Grand Theft Auto 4’s release date is closer to the release date of the original Starfox or Street Fighter 2, than it is to the present.
And you don’t even want me to do any date comparison for the following:
… Let’s do the time warp Againnn!~
For everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven.
Spock - Civilization 4 (2005)
It’s never too late to find a time warp to go back a few decades. The holos just don’t hit the same
Wow the diminishing returns between that time really comes into focus.
The line between 4th and 5th gen (SNES to N64) was enormous, 5th to 6th was pretty significant, 6th to 7th was noticeable, and it’s been 20 years of small improvements since then.
There is a noticeable difference in graphics from 7th to 9th. But 8th felt like a half step. And it doesn’t feel like there are noticeable improvements in any graphics, physics engines, lighting or anything else since 2020 when 9th gen started. This cant be said about any generations up to 8th.
I mean yeah. There isn’t that much of a drastic shift in game design, except for the bleeding of RPG mechanics into more genres, more roguelite mechanics in indie games (choose one of 3) and having equipment systems in multiplayer FPSes. The biggest hit of 2024 was basically solitaire.
It’s hardly that much more different.
Wheras, going from snes through ps1 to xbox 360, things went from 2d (and extremely crude 3d) to textured 3d with jank controls to high fidelity games with standardised controls. Not much changed after that. The huge “innovations” of VR, motion controls, are basically niche due to economic factors, so people aren’t exactly having commonplace motion control VR experiences that put them in the game and comparing that to ducking behind cover in gears of war. They’re comparing making cover in Fortnite with ducking behind cover in gears of war.
Right. I bet more people play SNES than Xbox now as well.
SNES is far more accessible due to ease of emulation and small game sizes, so makes sense!
¿Que? The 360 has a LOT of excellent games.
I think they’re agreeing; game tech improved a lot more from the SNES to the 360 than from the 360 to now.
I meant like graphically.
Heres how that works:
Gaming got popular.
Normies like fancy graphics, production value, and are swayed by fake trailers and mass marketing campaigns.
(Doing all that well, in a way that people can actually afford to pay for, is extremely difficult and very expensive)
Corpos discovered they could turn everything into primarily a market for subscriptions and micro transactions, that houses a game, and most normies kept paying for all that untill the economy entered the Second Great Depression.
… its basically Dutch Disease, but for video gaming.
This has fuck all to do with anything I said.
You’re a generation off: It’s more retro now than the NES (US release) was when the 360 came out. We crossed that threshold about a month ago.
Frankly, the reason this is shocking to people is that games, graphically and mechanically, made leaps and bounds from the SNES to the 360, and gave largely stagnanted from the 360 to now.
A LOT of people have completely failed to grasp how much technology has stagnated in the last 20 years.
Yeah, my smart phone with Internet access basically everywhere begs to differ.
Phones didn’t changed fundamentally since 2015.
Saying technology hasn’t progressed in 10 years is a very different statement than technology hasn’t progressed in 20 years.
Phones, as we know them today, entered market much later than consoles or PCs.
My point is that eventually we hit the ceiling of progress. PCs and consoles hit their peak 20 years ago while phones did 10 years ago. Things haven’t changed in a while for both of them and it doesn’t feel so far that there will be major progress any time soon.
We’ve got driverless cars and CRISPR gene editing. Those weren’t around 20 years ago. You don’t think those are major advancements?
The Iphone entered the marked in 2007, before that is what entirely possible to connect a PDA to the internet via you dumbphone (using IRC from my palm pilot in the 90s surely felt cool…)
My phone can literally be used as VR goggles and stream HD video pretty much anywhere in the country. But smart phones existed in 07 and PDAs existed in the 90s. Yeah, no difference between these things. lol.
Ah… you mean its better at providing a more potent form of a digital drug? Ok…
I feel like y’all are just being contrarian doomers. Listen, I get it. The ruling class of billionaires use technology for nefarious purposes to control us and extract every penny of money they possibly can by selling our attention spans in ever increasing ways. I’m not saying they don’t. I’m not saying we live in a utopia. I’m just saying that there have absolutely been a lot of technological improvements in the past 20 years.
Folks saying “actually PDAs had internet access in the '90s” are, fuck, not even missing the forest for the trees, they’re just covering their eyes and refusing to acknowledge that they’re surrounded by trees.
We’ve got driverless cars. Yes, they’re far from perfect, and I wouldn’t really say they’re adequate, but we do have honest to god driverless cars. Electric ones too! And they aren’t just a gimmick, they really do give gas cars a run for their money. 3d printers are a home commodity now much like traditional printers have been in the past. CRISPR lets us modify genes. The idea of watching a 4k video on the Internet in 2006 would’ve been crazy. AI has improved a lot, and I don’t even mean the modern generative AI like LLMs or Stable Diffusion, even prior to that machine learning was a huge thing.
Relevant XKCD.
That was released in 2014. You know what I can do now with my phone? I can take a picture of a bird and search to see what kind of bird it is. Reverse image search has been around for a while, but it used to just find things that were mostly pixel for pixel matches. Now it’s much more capable.
The first smartphones were released in 2007…
You don’t think there’s any difference between today’s phones and the 2007 ones? Not in cell coverage either?
Not in terms of navigating a city, which have had universal coverage since the flip phone days.
Also, just an FYI: GPS has had global coverage since the 1970s and doesn’t require a cell signal at all.
Smart phone advancements have been incremental since they were released, very little had changed in terms of basic functionality. The biggest difference is that you can listen to music while your getting navigated now.
Dude, take the rose tinted goggles off for a second. I had a GPS navigation system for my car early on, around ~2010, maybe a little earlier, that thing was shit. It could hardly figure out where I was in the city. It would very often snap to the wrong road and I’d have to reboot it. Today, it’s simple. I just pull out my magical everything device and use an app. Technology has progressed A TON in 20 years.
Me then: “Haha ‘time marches on’ what a cool phrase”
Me now: “Yo, time, can we maybe slow the pace or take the break?” Time: “No. Only march on.” Me: visibly aging
I already have Father Time beating my ass before I even started playing Hades II lmao
Yeah, but the SNES became retro the moment the PS1 came out. That leap in tech was ridiculous.
Perhaps I’m in a minority but when the PS3 and 360 first debuted I did not consider even the NES to be “retro”. I would have applied that term to the likes of an Atari 2600 or colecovision.
The NES and Atari are separated by mere 6 years. The NES and Xbox 360 are separated by nearly 22 years. That’s how much the perception of graphical advancement has decelerated. Sure we keep making leaps on graphical fidelity, but ever more in areas that are less and less noticeable every time.
*crumbles into pieces like a Dry Bones*
I don’t believe you.
You didn’t hate that at all.
Classic? What? I’m really that old?
I still have an OG Wii. That thing is a BEAST, even today.
Amazing console that can be easily softmodded nowadays. mine has a 1tb hdd attached, with over 200 games (incl. ~1/3 from xbox classic). I’ve been using it more than the PS4 or Steam, until I modded my PS4 too recently
My problem with the PS4 and the Switch was the library. Modding a 360 is just better.
On the other hand, most of the games I’ve gotten for my PS5 are PS4 games, though tbf they are mostly from the used game bargain bin at EB Games, so I guess it says more about the cheap ps4 library vs ps5.
And noticing that this tweet is already 5 years old is the cherry on top.
The tweet was slightly off then, Gamecube was just released at the end of 2001 and Wind Waker is 2003.
Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask were 1999 and 2000 though.
It’s now 2026, so Zelda 20 years ago was:
Breath of the Wild is almost 10 years old.
Why am I still on this thread?? I keep taking psychic damage from Father Time!!!
And still costs $60/$80 with the DLC!
… and Nintendo still hasn’t figured out how to run it at an actually stable 60 fps.
I’m trying to finally finish trials of the sword on master mode… which is only going to be possible due to hacking my switch, backing up my save, transferring it to PC, and finally converting it to a Wii U save to run in Cemu. Glorious ultrawide at 144fps - I only wish I had left myself more of the game to play on a worthy system
Holy shit that reminds me, I’m so far behind on my Zelda shit that I haven’t even yet played OoT master quest or whatever its called?
But yeah, its… pretty sad, the state of Nintendo these days.
I think it runs pretty well on Switch 2, no?
Yet most other open world games are still struggling to surpass its world design…
Eh…
Except much lower resolution than that.
Don’t let Nintendo see this thread 0_0
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You wouldn’t emulate a handbag
My first 360 game was FF XIII. Had a massive crush on Lightning.
