• N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    This is a useful compilation. While the ICE argument is that their agent acted in defense, that completely ignores the context. They weren’t trying to apprehend a violent criminal, they were trying to intimidate someone they viewed as a protester. You can clearly see in the center bottom videos, Ross easily sidestepped the vehicle without injury even after remaining in the front quarter of the vehicle to draw his weapon and fire two shots. There was zero chance of him being hit by her driving away, and his shots did not stop the vehicle. In a way, this is like the kid who was shot eating a hamburger in a parking lot. The situation was unnecessarily escalated so that a trigger-happy cop could get the thrill of shooting someone.

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    I’ve seen the murderer’s perspective (the one marked Alpha News) all over, it’s confirmed real right? It looks real to me looking at reflections and how it syncs up and all that, but there have been dozens of AI videos of this already and I don’t know Alpha News so I thought I’d ask here.

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    Seeing all of these videos synced up, it looks like the ICE agent was partially in front of her vehicle when it started moving forward, and thus could easily have been frightened of being ran over. But lets put any other person besides this man in the same scenario. If I was in front of this car and was afraid that I was going to be ran over, my very first thought would be to get the fuck out of the way. I understand this scenario could put anyone into flight-or-fight mode and thus would make logical thinking difficult (even though I think people in this profession should be trained to think thoroughly in scenarios like this? But I digress) how is the first thought “fight” if you think this car is coming to run you over?

    Edit: I phrase it this way not because I’m defending him - I’m imagining what the argument would be about “him having to make a split second decision” and it being “in self-defense” and refuting it by saying that most reasonable people could defend themselves in this situation by dodging out of the fucking way.

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      Nah, fully disagree. Video in center at top from 35 onwards is most clear, and video directly below that & to the left corroborates.

      The car was moving quite slowly the whole time. He arrived (from the sidewalk / verge) and stayed on the side of the road during most of the incident, stepping towards and in front of the car with his weapon drawn to fire, even as she was turning the car away from him and driving away quite slowly. A different car had just driven past him MUCH faster.

      He was planning to fire from the beginning, and just itching for an opportunity - never had any obvious fear of being hit and didn’t flinch, didn’t jump back, didn’t lose balance moving off-guard… Nothing.

      Just saw his opportunity and blasted three shots into the face of an unarmed soccer mum.

      There were also people on the other side of the car (including law enforcement) in his line of fire - completely deranged shooting.