The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.
  • Hopfgeist@feddit.de
    28·
    3 years ago

    It is up to Ukraine, but I think a few points remain extremely important:

    • Any gain that Russia can retain from its aggression vindicates their invasion. And they will do it again. To the Russian government, personnel losses are irrelvant.
    • Any peace that does not include Ukraine in a strong alliance (read: full NATO membership) will allow Russia to rebuild military strength and attack again to finish what they started
    • Any deal that Russia signs is not worth the paper, as we have seen with the wanton violation of the Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia agrees to respect the borders of Ukraine as defined in the Helsinki Accords, and not to use force or threat of force against any signatory state (which included Ukraine).
    • From which follows: only a strong Ukraine, backed by credible assurances of defense by all of NATO will keep Russia from attacking again. Not a written deal alone.
  • Styxie@feddit.nldeleted by creator
    16·
    3 years ago

    So all of those assurances from Western leaders about supporting Ukraine for as long as it takes were completely disingenuous.

    • Hopfgeist@feddit.de
      3·
      3 years ago

      That assumes the people “broaching the topic of negotiations” are the same that promised support for however long it takes. Since the negotiation-supporters have chosen to remain anonymous, this is not an assertion we can make. But we know some likely names among US Republicans, parroting Russian propaganda.

  • Redditgee@lemmy.world
    15·
    3 years ago

    "but there’s a growing sense that it’s too late, and it’s time to do a deal,” the former senior administration official said.

    It’s too late because you didn’t send what they said they needed to win, you ape. Unreal.

  • MedicatedMaybe@lemmy.world
    81·
    3 years ago

    Russia is just going to keep going the West has proven it self as weak and full of fear. All Russian had Todo was wait and use propaganda campaigns all over the Internet. Soon Trump will be president again and Putin will get everything he wants.