1: This girl seems cool.
2: BATTERIES ARE $220 NOW?!?!
Just paid 350 canuck bucks for an AGM battery for a regular old RAV4.
This world is cruel
I replaced my car battery a few years ago thinking it was just going to be $50. $175 later…
Can confirm, am also RAV4 owner who had to pay $350 for an AGM battery.
A new rav4? Crazy there are enough electronics running that a lead acid battery wouldn’t be up to the task!
Mine is a 2017 model. It is a hybrid so there are more electronics. The battery is stored in the trunk and that may be why it’s AGM, if I remember correctly the lead acid batteries can let out some pretty toxic fumes while charging!
AGM is often specced for cars with start-stop, where there are periods of consumption without any generation happening, I believe. Most modern cars have that, though I don’t know if all ask for AGM. Most of my experience has been with German cars where it’s often suggested you use AGM even if it wasn’t specced with AGM new.
Agm batteries are fuckin annoyingly expensive
To be fair, they seem to be better than they used to. My car hit 200k not too long ago and still has its original battery. I have no problems with it but I remember having much newer batteries where it was a gamble on cold mornings if it would start. Purely anecdotal though.
My car has 130k and I keep wondering when the battery is going to die, because when I was younger they didn’t last this long and I just kinda forgot about it until it occurred to me recently.
270k checking in, factory battery
My car hit 25k and needed a new battery
Yeah someone told me the other day they had to get 2 batteries in the last year because one of those breathilizers in the car eats at them. I told him to make sure he used the manufacturers warranty. But I figured I’d tell you just so you know you arent the only one getting short lasting batteries
I just paid ~650usd for a new battery for my Toyota. Though I bought an extra expensive one to have good enough amps for starting in -40c and colder.
It’s a couple of hunks of lead, copper, and sulfuric acid. You got robbed.
You can get AGM or even lion batteries which cost a little more and are a bit more involved but 600 still sounds high.
No? Proper high CCA batteries are expensive, go find me something with 1000+ CCA from a trusted brand for under 600 bucks (including all taxes, etc) I’m also not in the US
Oh my bad, I should have researched the Russian battery market before commenting about my personal experiences on the other end of the world
Russian battery market
wait, what?
*looked at the username you’re responding to* ah, nevermind
Fun fact: -40c = -40f
Stop buying stuff from the dealership!
*stealership
I did not, and that’s a very American thing that dealerships massively rip you off. (though yes OEM parts are always more expensive)
I bought a high CCA battery because I need it where I live, they are expensive. The one I got is an Odyssey PC1750T which I have no clue what the price of is in America, but 600+ usd with taxes isn’t uncommon in Europe.
That’s crazy. I have a high CCA battery that I got at Costco tire center for $220.
Went to check if they were cheaper at Walmart, found they were 70-140 for a normal lead acid battery.
It popped up with an ad asking me to do a free month trial of Walmart+ or what not. I was like why would I want this. And the FIRST line wasn’t about free delivery, cheaper gas prices or some shit, it was 25% percent off Burger King daily. (Guessing they say daily so you don’t stand outside and give everyone 25% off on the drive thru.). But still… Why the fuck is fast food charging so much that they can afford to throw another 25% to Walmart.
Don’t ever buy batteries from an auto parts store. Find a hole in the wall hardware store or a rural king or something like that and you’ll get them way cheaper
Just go to Walmart lol there’s always like 100 free ones in the parking lot
Just need a crowbar and you’re golden
Another reason to love Costco.
They were never cheap…
Newer cars call for more expensive types of battery.
I don’t know about that, it kinda paints a picture that the general public is being priced out of cars and their maintenance….
Wait…
They’re still lead acid batteries. That hasn’t changed.
Just got (today!) a brand new battery for $85 (from the factory store, so not a purchasing option available for most people)
My work truck has 2 batteries, it was a bit over $450 total 2 months ago
Im building a race car, for an extra $350 I can get a battery that weighs 2kg instead of 14kg.
Like… It does nothing else special other than weigh a shitload less.
That is a shitload , though hopefully not literally.
Seems worthwhile in this context, though.
Yeah, Im building a barely street legal “smiles per gallon” toy… in a 1025kg car I can save around 12kg each on the battery, spare wheel, aircond, back seat and wheels, few more on the carpet and sound deadening… few more on the flywheel. doesnt sound like much but the car will be about 6% lighter overall. Thats the low hanging fruit and the expense of losing more will be where it costs big cash or the car becomes illegal.
Same capacity and CCA or do you have to make sacrifices?
Less AH but thats a minimal concern.
Well for a race car yeah, I was just wondering if the technology existed to make regular car batteries lighter without any sacrifices besides cost. I guess Lifepo4 is an option, but not in the cold.
Honestly I’m not really sure about the long term drawbacks of running one in a street car.
Ah I run aged luxury cars in a cold climate so personally I’m not a fan of “less Ah” but for most people it should be fine.
When you really get into the nitty gritty with weight savings, 350 bucks for 12 kg of weight reduction seems like a total bargain.
You should post your project on !cars@lemmy.world :D
Yeah its pretty much a bargain in terms of weight reduction, but I’m also not tearing out a perfectly good $200 lead acid and then spending $550 just to save some weight while I still have repairs to do just to make the car “good” and “safe” LOL.
We are early in the project but I will take the time to post it up on here too.
Yeah they’re all 200+ now, I was told it’s because only a few companies make batteries and with the rise in popularity of electric vehicles now they are in shorter supply.
I don’t know if that’s true, but that’s what some mechanic told me when I went to get a new one recently
with the rise in popularity of electric vehicles now they are in shorter supply.
This doesn’t make much sense at first glance, because the battery in an electric vehicle uses completely different technology and chemistry compared to a classic car battery (lithium-ion Vs lead-acid).
Every EV I’ve seen has separate 12V battery, same as fuel cars do.
Sure but that wouldn’t increase demand for those separate batteries regardless of the technology.
Unless there are a lot more cars on the road or EVs consume them faster for some reason.
Red Top in my Tundra was $350
When you try to hit on someone but your charisma is −5.
Being a shitty warlock is a hard life.
literally me except the hitting on someone part
-5 score, or -5 modifier?
Scores cannot be negative
Depends on the game.
Indeed. In Palladium games there isn’t ability damage at all
You never met me
Which makes for the fun for ages 4–99, hyperbole
Not many 4 year old are interested with role play games in my circle. I also feel they’d be hard to DM/GM for
In 3.5 wacky stuff happened (like dying or falling into a coma) when they drop to 0. I don’t remember if negative scores were possible then.
In 3.5 if you’re on a Con score of 3 (-4 modifier) and take 5 points of fort damage your Con reduces to zero and you’re dead. 0 means you have no ability in that attribute
According to the d20srd ability damage section
You pretty much end up either dead or helpless when an attribute goes to zero
In 1st ed comeliness can be negative. Down to -30 iirc.
But we have a perfect example of DM fiat here.
score
Yes
Wait that’s more expensive per unit than one. Ya gotta throw a dog a bone in bulk.
She’s seems cool tho
This comment has “what English sounds like to non-english speakers” vibes.
As a native english speaker this
Ya gotta they’re a dog a bone at bulk
is just aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz
*you gotta throw a dog a bone at bulk
Lol
Shit English speakers say lol
I assume it’s some kind Australian slang? Or perhaps maybe some kind of slang from one of the deep Yankee states like Maine, or somewhere up in Canada.
“they’re” is “throw” (possibly an autocorrect error)
Translation of idiom: You should offer a discount for the customer who’s purchasing in large quantities. Not charge more per item than for a single purchase.
The price per battery goes up if you buy in bulk? WTF?
This is probably some US nonsense where the battery was $220 without tax, and the value at the register for the 99 batteries was with tax.
Needless to say: 🤢
Or OP meant to say one was $230 and 99 was $22,000.
I like this train of thought, but 99 x 230 = 22,770
The unstated premise being that $22,000 is discounted from $22,770 or OP just remembered the first two digits.
Oh yeah, I like this hypothesis
I feel the math is wrong but maybe I just don’t know enough about car batteries
Volume
The math is wrong in the wrong direction. 99 batteries at $220 is $21,780
That’s the joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXDxNCzUspM
Edit: Oh shit, this is the right video where they explain how they make money (53 seconds): https://youtu.be/KodqIPMbyUg?t=56
You’ve got core charges depending on locality (I assume. Maybe they’re universal?) and potentially taxes or other local fees
Is that with sales tax included?
220 x 99 = 21,780
5.6% sales tax?
Maybe with a deposit.
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Seriously though, have there been battery advances that warrant that price increase or is it just capitalism rearing its ugly head again?
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If it was a modern lithium battery it would have some merit. However there has not been a single advance in lead batteries.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. So it’s either cost of materials increase, increased environmental regulation, or greed.
Hmmmm I wonder which one contributes the most
Infinite growth, homey!
Vehicles with auto stop-start will chew through batteries if they don’t use the more expensive specialised battery (or disable the feature)
Probably just capitalism, but I wouldn’t be surprised if car batteries are reaping at least some of the benefits of the EV industry and their race for better batteries.
I think it was 5 years ago.
It is around €70 with VAT in EU (45Ah).
Nah, these ones are sprinkled with fairy dust. You don’t want to know how much the organic fairy dust version costs.
I used to drive to the bad side of town and buy a refurbished battery for $25. That battery would last at least 2 years.
Thought for sure this was a Dull Men’s Club post
-5.6% “discount” lol.
My guess is they had 6% sales tax and she rounded down on the output.
I did something similar in the early '90s, but it was a carved wooden eagle at Busch Gardens. When I hit the sub total button the P.O.S. system for the whole park crashed because it was around a million dollars. lmao
That was awesome
He crazy!
I don’t know why this is so funny but I’m cackling like a fool.
Looking for a sugar daddy?
