Hey, let’s not turn dislike for the technology into dislike for people.

You saw someone copying and pasting back and forth between email and chatgpt, message coworkers and then work on a chart in Excel.
For all you know he was using chatgpt to translate the emails, not as a prosthetic mind.

group that all had very Indian looking names

What does the ethnicity of who he messaged matter? If anything it lends credence to “guy used translation software for work email”.

At no point in the 3 hour flight did a conscious thought enter his mind

completely dependent on AI. Without it their lives and careers would fall apart. This guy would pay anything for it. He cannot function without it

That’s a mighty leap to make from what you described.
Saying someone else didn’t have conscious thought reeks of “I’m the main character and everyone else is an NPC”.

There are people who use it. There are people who pay for it, and there are people who over use and over pay for it. That can be true and you can be upset by it without demoting people below “consciousness”.

You are one dense person. You’re literally asking me to understand what I said to you.

What part of anything I said to you implies I’m not taking it seriously? That I don’t understand the dangerous path we’re on?

You’re saying it’s an American problem, so we should fix it ourselves. I’m saying that we quite likely don’t have the ability to hurt the people in power meaningfully before they escalate things further.

Saying you should stop giving us money because it’s one of the only things that might hurt them or get people desperate enough to depose them before they start a war with Canada or Denmark isn’t failing to take it seriously or not understand it.
I’m truly confused how you’re ending up in that place.

Are you going to explain to the drone, you didn’t support Trump? Complain about the democrats for the situation you’re in? Stop being stupid. All of your bullshit excuses don’t matter anymore.

Are you just using me as a punching bag because you’re mad at Americans as a whole?

Why are you mad at me? I’m not the one saying we should do those things, nor did I vote for him or support him. I’ve done damned near everything an individual can do.

Americans aren’t a monolith. Some of us are terrified of the things that are happening and want them to stop. You’re mad at the people who want it to stop and are desperately saying “we might not be able to stop this, please help”.

You’re arguing that people you think are stupid wouldn’t do something you think is stupid. Think about that for a minute.

America’s ability to occupy is more complicated than you think. We regularly set unattainable objectives, but it’s not like we were forced out of Iraq or Afghanistan.
An invasion of Canada would definitely go poorly, but do you think it would go worse for Canadians or Americans?
Our invasion of Afghanistan lasted 20 years and cost us around 2,000 lives. It cost the Afghans more than 100,000. In excess of a million if you count non-direct deaths.
Failed occupations because they didn’t complete their objectives, not because of an ineffective military presence.
I have no idea if we’d succeed or not in an annexation of Canada, and it doesn’t matter. What matters is that optimistically millions of people would die, and they would be disproportionately Canadian civilians.

You’re assuming that a whole bunch of countries aren’t busy acquiring nuclear weapons right now.

I make no such assumption. The reality is it takes time to actually produce them. It can take years to build the equipment needed to start production on the materials. A nuke in 4 years isn’t a deterrent to an attack in less than 3.

Y’all get emotional and want to do stupid things for the sake of your pride. Worrying about pride while you have a goddamn child molester as a President. Stupid people.

What are you even talking about here? Do you think my comment was in someway a statement of pride? You’re mad at the people who are saying they need help because they don’t know if they can stop them from hurting you.
They’re threatening me with economic hardship, my neighbors with deportation to a random country, and my friends with erasure. They’re threatening you with starvation, bombing, death by infection, and being arbitrarily shot because your car was a convenient target.

It’s our problem, but that doesn’t mean it won’t hurt you.

Conservatives seem to oscillate between isolationism and aggressive intervention. They’re both from the stance of American primacy, either using our military for our benefit and to enforce our wishes or saying the world has nothing to offer us we need and that we’re better off not extending effort or energy on the rest of the world.

Currently our conservatives are swinging towards isolationism, which is why the anti immigration rhetoric and pulling out of international organizations was very popular. That’s not compatible with a plan to forcibly annex another country.

Yes, writing off the nation where everyone is an idiot, that’s armed with nuclear weapons, and has expansionist ideals and deciding to just leave them to their own devices because pushing back is possibly difficult or risky will work out great.

It should only be a problem is you’re a nation in the western hemisphere without nuclear weapons, so I’m sure it’s fine. Mexicans, greenlanders and Canadians aren’t worth causing a fuss over, and I’m sure they’ll stop there. Just ask Poland.

Were the Jews living in Germany… Not German?

The people hurt by the Nazis and the people who are and will be hurt by the Republicans are mostly Americans.

“it’s not my responsibility to not support something bad because it’s your fault. I’m going to keep giving the source of the problem money until you make it go away. Hurry up and do something, as long as that something doesn’t involve asking me not to financially suppor the problem.”.

I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying that the people who are saying that they’ve lost all faith in Americans because we haven’t full actualized a revolution in less than a year are being shitty for no good reason. Armchair revolutionaries who think that it should be done now because it’s supposed to be as simple as “organize, kick them out, make a new government and they all just say shucks while we arrest them”.

As you said, people are getting organized. But to some people outside the US, that’s not enough and we should be done deposing the government by now. That’s what I’m saying is unreasonable.

Based on the finish dude in your icon and finish instance name, I’m assuming you’re in Finland.
Organization takes longer here than it would there based purely on population. I’m in an average sized state. Our population is twice that of Finland. The state is about the same size as the country.
Even if we were all on board even for a strike, it’s still gonna take longer than so many people seem to expect us to be able to do it in.

It costs a company money to process mail at their place if business. Not like, crazy amounts but someone has to open the box, see what’s in it and figure out why it’s there. It’s probably going to cost them at least $2-$3 in time.

It’s far from an effective way to cost them money, but it’s $2 more than throwing a book away at your house.

Alright. How do I make that happen? I’m assuming since you’re answering so confidently that you actually have an answer and have done something like this before.
You certainly couldn’t just be another armchair revolutionary who handwaved the entire “plan a nationwide general strike and risk execution for insurrection” based purely on what you think sounds straightforward, right?

Most revolutions have outside partisans who come and lend a hand. Why don’t you come over and do that?

Maybe it’s a bit trickier to organize hundreds of millions of people to have at least passive support for something and interrupt the social momentum of hundreds of years of uninterrupted peaceful transfer of power than can be accomplished in less than a year and being shitty towards the people who are upset and don’t know what to do is just … Being shitty.

Yes, that’s what I’m asking for the details of how you do it. I don’t know how to do a revolution. My assumption is that the people who confidently and definitely know that we’re doing it wrong must have some idea how to do it right.

So again, how do I overthrow the US government?

You people dicked around so long

“So long”? What’s your threshold for a reasonable timeline for a revolution to start? he hasn’t even been in office a full year.

I think they gave it two wireless adapters for basically that purpose. That way it and the computer can form a dedicated channel where they don’t need an intermediary for better performance.

Walk me through your plan to depose the American government in less than a year. Don’t forget that if you fail or are caught planning they don’t just kill you, they kill you by injecting you with poison that feels like being set on fire from the inside while you suffocate, take everything you or your family possess leaving your survivors homeless and destitute, shoot your dog and probably a couple of family members too.

Like, if you’ve lost all faith we’ll “do what needs to be done”… What needs to be done?

I agree that it’s artificial scarcity, but I don’t think the conversation is going to fully be able to move to removing that scarcity until we find a way to handle the people who rearrange the bits actually living in a world of objects and totally authentic scarcity.

It’s the same dilemma we have with authors and musicians. Even if it can be infinitely copied the people who make it still need to eat, and not just be able to find a way to eat, but to reliably and predictably eat which makes donations and crowd funding iffy at best.

As a user and contributer to open source, I’m loath to put up any defense of something that irritates me more often than not. As a person who makes a living working on the closed side I can honestly say I would probably not be in the field if there wasn’t as much ability to make a living in it.

Software patents can fuck off though.

I would recommend it. It can take a minute your first time through to get to some of the intense optimization stuff, but a lot of it’s there really early.
The dominant gameplay loop by far is “you have tools. There’s a new problem to solve with those tools that’s hard/tedious. Solving it means you can make tools that make the problem easier. Goto step one”.

I generally assume intent that’s more shallow if it’s just as explanatory. It’s the same reason home appliances occasionally get a burst of AI labeling. “Artificial intelligence” sounds better in advertising than “interpolated multi variable lookup table”.
It’s a type of simple AI (measure water filth from an initial rinse, dry weight, soaked weight, and post spin weight, then find the average for the settings from preprogrammed values.), but it’s still AI.

Biggest reason I think it’s advertising instead of something more deliberate is because this has happened before. There’s some advance in the field, people think AI has allure again and so everything gets labeled that way. Eventually people realize it’s not the be all end all and decide that it’s not AI, it “just” a pile of math that helps you do something. Then it becomes ubiquitous and people think the notion of calling autocorrect AI is laughable.

That fits. I think games where you need to care for a dumb little creature hit a couple buttons in our psychology. You want to make it do the right thing because you want to succeed at the game and get that reward of “it did good”. It’s struggling, which means you’re paying attention to it, and it’s doing so with enough charm that you’re not just entirely indifferent. Most importantly, it needs to succeed often enough to make sure you know it can, and slowly get better so you have the long term satisfaction of having improved it. Extra bonus points if you can give a bit of wish fulfillment fantasy. “My sim who regularly eats old fish out of the trash is somehow a self employed artist who lives in a great house I got distracted and built to my dream specification. I would totally play pool until I wet myself and fell asleep crying on the floor.”

I think there’s actually a lot of truth to fun being related to frustration. If something is too easy you don’t get the dopamine hit, because why would your brain reward you for learning something trivial? If it’s too hard the path to most joy is giving up. At the sweet spot it’s obviously possible, but you struggle enough that you get a dash of dopamine for succeeding. The trick is keeping the struggle varied or infrequent enough that you’re brain doesn’t declare it a source of diminishing returns.

Shitty mobile games are the king of it, since they have a standard/easy ramp that quickly moves to just above most people’s threshold with the “out” of a loot box that has a chance to give you a bonus labeled as just a small boost. And they’re normally $10/10, but the 50 packs is $15 for the moment, and since you’re new you get $10 off…

Not-those types of games tend to just try for “balanced difficulty scaling”.

The factorio dev blog has some good reads about finding the right balance of tedium as driving mechanism to figure out automation and also needing the game to be enjoyable. Basically the moment an activity becomes stale they want you to be able to automate it

City skylines would be the best place to live, and would have a natural friendship with factorio.

It would be a bit weird making a bowl of cereal and having a freight train blast up to your house at 200mph, a robot flies out of the depot just past the dog park, skims above the pedestrian walkways at just under the speed of sound, unloads the single stack of of cereal boxes that the train is carrying and sticks it in your pantry before they both vanish just as fast. You only had a half a box of raisin bran left and you hit the resupply threshold.

Okay, but trying to guide a braindead little sim automaton through basically playing factorio would be incredible. “Oh my God, why are you running the blue circuit belt through there? Stop it! No! STOP CRYING DIANE, YOU CHOSE TO SKIP EATING AND USE A SUSHI BELT. Stop eating off the floor, there’s coal everywhere”.