Jesse

@bluemoon Everywhere that has tried free public transport sees a 30℅ increase in ridership, but no reduction in car use. The 30% increase comes out of active transport so it’s a very expensive upkeep cost to get people walking to take the bus instead.

If money is available to make public transport free then that money would be better spent on things that will result in large increases in ridership and actually reduce car usage by expanding the public transport network and running more frequent services.

You can remove the requirement for drivers to enforce fares without removing the fare as most people will still pay it.

@notgold yeah, it’s so easy to see it was bad with hindsight. But it also should have been easy to see at the time with some simple maths.

@notgold The classic second stage of the Car Ponzi scheme. They make a big list of the problems that cars created, ascribe them to population growth and then double down on cars as the solution.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars ah, good point.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars

I grew up in Collingwood, Melbourne and all of these things were within 20mins walk from my house.

I’m on the other side of Melbourne now (Footscray) and the only thing I’m not walking distance from is ‘sports arena’…unless you count horse racing.

@TootSweet @ajsadauskas They’ll just completely rewrite it from scratch using a newer LLM and that will be considered normal. In those 5yrs the percentage of developers who remember the idea of code having longevity will be tiny.

@themeatbridge @sexy_peach Commuter driving has the same ‘last mile’ problem, but it’s parking.

The photo doesn’t include the $250 million worth of carparks for those 10,000 cars that has to exist at the other end of the highway.

@blandy @frostbiker
In Victoria (Australia), the fine for using your mobile phone while riding a bicycle is the same as when driving a 2.6 tonne ute.

@JasSmith @cerement @lysol Density is the panacea. Cycling is just what makes it possible. You can’t have nice livable density with cars.

@Crazypartypony @glasgitarrewelt But if parking restrictions are enforced and people can’t park and thus can’t use cars then there will be political will for public transport. Public transport is cheaper to deploy than all the car infrastructure even for small townships.

@DLSchichtl @Iron_Lynx of course there are things that can’t be delivered in bicycles and of course this only make sense with enough density.
But density is a goal of urbanism.

The places in the world that currently have success doing bicycle deliveries right now allow night time or off peak van/truck deliveries.
Most deliveries are small packages, especially the deliveries that are time sensitive and so are ideal for cargo bike delivery.
The 2-3 photocopier deliveries a week are done with a van at night.

@ChicoSuave @HiddenLayer5 you’ve got it the wrong way around. The anti-car/pro public transport/urbanism movement always has the goal of reducing the cost of transport and the cost of housing to make places that are livable for people on lower incomes.

Cars in rural areas aren’t a concern because they’re places where population density is so low that cars have fewer negative effects.

But rural public transport between townships and major cities can also make getting places quicker, easier and safer.

Building public transport in and to higher density areas doesn’t stop you from driving your car in a rural area.

@zoe @frankPodmore Driving licences and traffic lights were invented because car drivers were too dangerous to safely mix with existing road traffic and we needed to restrain them. Bicycles have never been a significant danger to other road traffic. We don’t require licences for people to ride bicycles for the same reason we don’t require licences for pedestrians, it’s a ridiculous idea that would do nothing useful.

@nicklockwood @TDCN @Showroom7561 no, it’s just politically impossible to mandate speed limiters. Governments tried 50yrs ago and haven’t tried again since. Car manufacturers want people to know they can speed. It’s all over their marketing.

@nicklockwood @TDCN @Showroom7561 you’re right. Mandatory speed limiters are a much better option. They’re cheap, easy and avoid having to fine people.

@TDCN @acs 5 out of 5 pedestrians will survive a collision with a car traveling at 20km/hr, only 4 out of 5 will survive a collision with a car traveling at 40km/h.
This doesn’t include the large difference in level of injury.

So by speeding your taking a situation where nobody should die and making it a situation where someone might.

A 20km/h area is an area where there will be lots of people to hit so it’s even more important to stick to the speed limit in that situation

@CorruptBuddha I’d say “reckless indifference to human life”

@NuPNuA @SoGrumpy you’re underestimating the noise of your tyres at higher speeds, which for a truck with a lot of tyres is considerable.

@CorruptBuddha @emergencyfood A 20mph speed limit is based on momentum the human body can withstand without a high likelihood of death.
Every mph over the limit increase the likelihood of a human being dying in a collision.

Speeding in a 20mph zone is very specifically choosing to increase the likelihood of killing someone.

@GBU_28 @TDCN In Australia we have a law that lets the police make you watch while they crush your car.