the existence of the state doesn’t abolish violence, so why should that be the standard?

yes

Negotiating for peace implies trust

right. that doesn’t mean that they have said they do trust him.

abolition of states

when did either of them say they trust putin? especially cornel west?

Vote third party in primaries.

i will, but how will that have any bearing on the democrats or republicans? it won’t. i’ll be nominating jill stein for the green party, and then i’m going to vote for her for president.

Do the work for third parties between elections.

i have more important work to do than building a party

Both are opposed to NATO

for different reasons. I oppose NATO, too.

West shares Trumps view of Putin and would allow to re-arm and attack again.

you have no evidence for this

do you believe in any situation where Russia is not defeated yet agrees to total withdrawal and reparations?

anything is possible if cornel west is elected

he could mean total withdrawal and reparations. you are making leaps of logic.

he never said that

there is no reason to believe someone voting for a so-called third party would vote for another politician. it’s not as though we don’t know they exist, and haven’t been browbeaten repeatedly about this.

deontological ethics are unconcerned with ends. the act itself is either ethical or unethical.

the ethics are in the act itself, not in the consequences.

biden helped get us a country that elected Trump.

I’d have voted for Bernie in 2016, and he ran as a democrat

it is. a vote for Cornel West must be counted for Cornel West, not any other candidate

the more people voting third party the more they’re helping republicans win

only votes for republicans help republicans win

Statistically third party voters would be more likely to vote democratic than republican if they didn’t have a third party option,

i haven’t voted for a democrat for president in over a decade and i’m not starting again this year.