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  • I think “conversation” is the key word here. It’s a means of engaging in dialogue with our predecessors, who wrestled with many of the same questions we do today.

    These days, I interpret the idea of “sola scriptura” to be more closely related to the doctrine of the priesthood of all believers than the infallibility of the Bible. I recognize that this may not be what Martin Luther had in mind, but I’m comfortable asserting that we don’t need to rely on the clergy to interpret scripture for us. I don’t think it’s wise to reject the wisdom of the church or to read the Bible outside of community.


  • annegreen@sh.itjust.worksOPtoProgressive Christian@sh.itjust.worksWhat is sin?
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    Some traditions would argue that the concepts of original sin and total depravity necessitate that, as sinful people, everything we do, we do in sin, regardless of intention or knowledge.

    For the most part, I reject that line of thinking. I think sin usually does involve some level of awareness. Again, I view sin primarily as the dehumanizing or objectifying of others. It’s viewing people not as other souls with inherent worth, but as a means of achieving your own desires. I think often, we are aware to some degree that we do this. But then, it could be argued that we may sometimes do this without realization.









  • If I understand you correctly, I think I could get on board with your interpretation in the sense that this may be the method by which God has designed humans to gradually develop an understanding of sin, but I would differ in that I believe there is an objective morality towards which we’re aligning. If sin is truly memetic, then the Good either doesn’t exist or is inaccessible/unknowable, which is inconsistent with my understanding of God’s self-revealing nature.


  • The way that someone chooses to interpret scripture is certainly going to impact their perspective on women in leadership. I agree with you that, despite the claims of many fundamentalists, it seems difficult to uphold the Bible as a univocal, concordant text. I see a lot of issues stem from the assumption that the Bible is effectively an instruction manual with a clear and consistent message on how we are to live our lives. A great resource on this topic is “The Bible Made Impossible,” by Christian Smith.

    I think an interesting example of how we should depend on biblical authority within the Bible itself is from Acts 15. By appealing to the scriptures, the early church determines that Gentiles shouldn’t be required to practice circumcision - which was one of the core elements of their faith at the time, because it was commanded in the scriptures.

    In my experience and perspective, the value of the Bible comes from its role as the word which reveals the Word. I will stand firm on the conviction that Jesus is the definitive revelation of divinity - not the Bible. The Bible is useful inasmuch as it is a book about Jesus. And yes, the portrait of Jesus it provides for us is someone who declares liberation, not subjugation.




  • Though OP never actually stated that the machine can perfectly predict the future. If that’s the case, then yes, you should just take box B. But we’re not given any information about how it makes its prediction. If @Sordid@sh.itjust.works is correct in assuming it’s a 50-50, then their strategy of taking both is best. It really depends on how the machine makes its prediction.





  • Thanks for the conversation! I do believe that everyone ultimately desires the ultimate Good, because we were created for the Good, though we don’t always recognize it. I like to call sin “an ‘eye’ problem that leads to an ‘I’ problem.” The Bible has an interesting theme of sin as spiritual blindness. Sin is the failure to recognize the goodness of God, and the tendency to look for the Good in other places. This spiritual shortsightedness causes us to become selfish, seeking the Good at the cost of other’s wellbeing. But this pursuit will never lead to the Good, because the Good is self-sacrificial love.

    I believe that through the work of the Holy Spirit, we can be healed of our spiritual blindness, and come to see the Goodness of God, and reject the idols which we have pursued instead. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, as I am fully known.

    Personally, I hold the view that Christians experience this work of the Holy Spirit during our earthly lives, and therefore receive immediate salvation in the next life. Those who haven’t undergone that sanctifying work will have to be purified in the next life, but will ultimately be reconciled with God. For some, this may mean a long period of rejection, in which they continue to reject God (much like C.S. Lewis’ dwarves in The Last Battle). But I believe that God’s love is relentless and enduring, and that even the most bitter hearts can be redeemed.

    Where can I go to escape Your Spirit? Where can I flee from Your presence? If I go up to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, You are there.



  • Good question.

    In my opinion, the answer is a bit complicated. I believe that God is quite literally, the ultimate good. And so, the satisfaction which each of us craves is found simply in God, who is love and goodness itself. For this reason, I don’t believe that any of us really does want oblivion or separation.

    If God truly is the ultimate good, then any of us who wants to be separated from God suffers from a skewed perspective of the nature of God. We mistake God as being merciless, cruel, or apathetic, and therefore reject God. But as we do so, we don’t actually reject God, but the faulty image of God which we hold.

    So I believe that ultimately, each of us will be satisfied in God, who created us to participate in loving community, and who loves us beyond measure.

    What do you think?