Representative Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican, told NBC News’ Kristen Welker on Sunday that according to lawyers hired by Congress, “at this point, there’s not a specific crime that’s been committed” by President Joe Biden in the impeachment probe against him.

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      They want to imprint on the minds of their “poorly educated” base that Biden has some sort of connection to some sort of crime. Go down the list of dirty tricks - Republicans are using all of them.

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      More like, “if we can accuse your guy of doing bad things, our guy(s) can do whatever they want and it’s even.”

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    In case you need to be reminded, the point here is diluting the impact of conversations about “charges” so that they can say things like, “Biden charges didn’t mean anything just like trump charges don’t, America isn’t interested in wasting time on this, let’s move on”

    Part of what fascism does is BREAK language.

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      God this shitty red team needs to just deliver their report and go home.

      And yeah, talking to fascists like they’re people is playing into their shit.

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      I would say they still failed significantly, they wanted to at least get an impeachment in to be able to say that even trumps impeachments didnt really mean much either.

      They may still be able to pivot as you indicated, but the fact that the impeachment process hasn’t been minimized is a win for our country in my opinion.

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        Haven’t they tried to impeach a whole lot of people, just to make “an impeachment” somewhah normal?

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    The GOP will continue dragging out this investigation anyway, until they either find some actual dirt or create an artificial precedent that all presidents are under continuous investigation, thus discrediting any future impeachment procedure against their guy. Either way, It’s a win.

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      This didn’t work the first time with Clinton.

      It’s not “revenge” for impeaching Trump, it’s revenge for Nixon. The Whitewater investigation didn’t find anything until Monica Lewinsky. She actually wasn’t even working at the White House when the investigation started.

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        The investigation wasn’t even about her, it was about real estate I believe. They just wanted whatever they could get on him and he made the mistake of lying about something embarrassing which then became the issue… Not to defend him, lying is lying especially if there are laws against it in those situations.

        So naturally the Republicans now go to “purgery trap! Purgery trap!” When impeachment is aimed at them because they know what they would do…

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        She actually wasn’t even working at the White House when the investigation started.

        Is this actually true? This is the first time I’ve ever heard this, would be shocking if so.

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          It surprises you that Republicans don’t investigate in good faith? Ken Starr was the Whitewater investigator who continued the investigation after the previous one left. He was appointed a year before Monica Lewinsky arrived at the White House.

          This is why Clinton’s approval ratings went up after he was convicted of “perjury” for misleading an investigation into his private life. Should he have done it? No. Did the American public care? Hell no.

          With the assistance of a family connection, Lewinsky secured an unpaid summer White House internship in the office of White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta. Lewinsky moved to Washington, D.C. and took up the position in July 1995.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

          In August 1994, Republican Kenneth Starr[39] was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Republican Robert B. Fiske, who had been specially appointed by US attorney general Janet Reno, prior to the re-enactment of the Independent Counsel law.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

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            It surprises you that Republicans don’t investigate in good faith?

            No, just the timing.

            She actually wasn’t even working at the White House when the investigation started.

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      It’s easy money for Republican lawyers and it confuses the cult base about the real criminal trying to avoid a trial.

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      If you ask plato’s socrates, there’s also things that you don’t know that you know. I think, at least. Philosophy class was hard, but this just unlocked a memory lol.

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    They will do literally everything but acknowledge their guy’s huge laundry list of crimes

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    You’d think we’d have at least acknowledged the problems with impeachment after Clinton got impeached for saying a BJ wasn’t sex…

    But that would require Dems to fix a problem with our government rather than ignore it as soon as it’s not an immediate issue.

    Our political system is fucked and we need a better one.

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        Yeah, I’m old enough to remember:

        Depends what your definition of “is” is

        My point is we’ve known the impeachment system was fucked for 30 years. And the only times Dems complain about it, is when a Dem president is facing impeachment.

        When anyone can tell Republicans will keep abusing it, and it doesn’t actually do enough to hold republicans accountable.

        It’s political theater that does nothing.

        Just another example of how our political system sucks, but no one in political power wants to change anything.

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          The “is” thing was different. If you dumped your girl and afterwards you say there “is” no relationship, that is true.

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      Clinton was impeached for perjury, which is a bit different. I don’t think he should have been impeached, but Clinton did actually lie under oath about the affair.

      Trump’s crimes are significantly more serious, and numerous, and the GOP will forever be responsible for refusing to vote to convict.

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        Clinton did actually lie under oath about the affair.

        He didn’t, though. They asked if he had sex, he asked them what sex was, they told him, and he hadn’t had sex based on that definition. They purposely equivocated on their definition of sex so that they could accuse him of lying.

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        You are right, but the rest is so reeking of some sort of new whataboutism.

        Oh no a blowjob. Thag is awful. Lets pardon dictator wannabie trying to demolish the westen world BTW.

        But well thats what the GOP is trying to do, water the donald impeachments (in plural please) out as just another normal things when it isn’t.

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          Oh I agree completely. It was a partisan shitshow, and nothing compared to the crimes Trump has committed and continues to commit.

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    I’m just adding this comment for engagement.

    Any Finns here would appreciate me joking about how my vote was the 609th? Not because of 69, but because of 609_uu

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    One of the absolute best videos on the Internet is “The Alt-Right Playbook: Always a Bigger Fish” by Innuendo Studios.

    https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs?si=0Mq17xGfebdtb4--

    It made things snap together and finally understand why conservatives are the way they are.

    Relevant to this news story, they assume that libs and lefties are just like them and are doing the same things they are: pulling every dirty trick in the book to ensure the superiority of their guys and the screwing over everyone different.

    Why is the biggest piece of Nazi scaremongering the alleged “fact” that white people are becoming a weak minority? Because they think the black folk will do exactly what they’ve been up to.