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“I’m mindful that no secretary of state has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on section three of the 14th Amendment. But I’m also mindful that no presidential candidate has, ever before, engaged in insurrection.”
I like how Trumpers always seem to forget about that 2nd sentence.
O’l smelly they used ta call him. He had tiny hands and giant tits, which was the style at the time.
The more states that block him, the better the argument that the Supreme Court should decline to intervene and let the state decisions stand.
Perfect time to use the “states rights” catch to make their heads spin
Oh, but it’s only about states’ rights when it is convenient for conservative arguments. Otherwise it’s just federal power all the way down.
They can only be called the Party of Responsibility if it’s within the America region. Otherwise it’s legally required to be called Sparkling Hypocrisy.
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On what grounds would they be removed? They can’t kick somebody off the ballot if it won’t stand up in court.
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Thanks. It’s a legit question though. A rogue Secretary of State could try but you know it’ll land in court and the Judiciary will decide based on the merits of the case.
Personally I support this precedent being set. We should uphold our laws to protect our country. If a Democrat ever lands in a similar situation then this precedent will be good to have had set.
But then the argument is we shouldn’t follow the law because the GOP might break it
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Does following the law wisely mean not enforcing it?
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I just asked a non confrontational question. If you can’t deal with that, that’s your business
I just asked a non confrontational question. If you can’t deal with that, that’s your business
Honestly do you think that will matter? What’s to stop the Supreme Court from saying we are the final say and no one can block him?
Nothing, I think they will do it.
But the GOP likes to pretend it is about states rights and Neil Gorsuch ostensibly has a lower court ruling related to this that would seem to favour blocking Trump. I have read the opinion And I didn’t think it applied, but I’m an idiot on my couch with no legal training.
I’m not sure it matters yet. Are the parties even required to have primaries? What keeps them from just choosing at the convention?
No.
The people.
Both parties used to have a much more closed process that didn’t announce a winner until their convention. The public primaries weren’t anything more than a preference poll. Voters punished them both for it so severely that they changed.
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When some states allow him and some block him, that’s the argument for the Court to step in.
Normally, I’d agree that a split encourages them to take the case, but political questions are extremely thorny. The fact that all these states are using their own processes to decide how to regulate their own elections tilts toward the system working the way it’s supposed to IMO.
Both of these arguments presuppose that principles and precedent are important factors for the current conservative majority to consider. Evidence says otherwise.
When you’re such a bitchass corrupt sore loser that legal experts need to clear the dusty cobwebs off ancient scrolls and navigate new legal waters because you decided to be the first brainlet to violate laws that no one before you was stupid and unpatriotic enough to even consider attempting.
Amendment, not law. And it was written in the aftermath of the Civil War, this is exactly what it was for.
The real issue at the heart of all this is that the popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.
Seriously. Didn’t Biden only win by like 43,000 votes in the electoral college?
There’s only 538 votes total in the electoral college. It was 306/232. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re referring to, then, apologies.
In competitive states, he won by only 43k votes as opposed to the many more votes he won by in the popular vote. In other words, had those votes been cast differently, the electoral college would be very different
This. And it was too close for those competitive electoral votes.
Republicans have not won the popular vote for a president since HW Bush.
Doesn’t matter. The electoral college is the only thing that counts.
Keep it going!
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If that happens the pay will just change the rules and select him at the convention.
They’re all-in with this doomsday cult.
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Yep, he won a single electoral vote in 2020.
That’s fine, right now it’s the momentum that counts. Hopefully other states will follow. I don’t know how this process works but I’m hoping he’s spread thin enough while fighting them all at once. Maybe that’ll do something to his pockets and stress him tf out, idk,
No impact because the Supreme Court is going to overturn their interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
Wake me up when a state that matters (as in, a state that will have an impact on the likelihood of Trump getting to and winning the general election) does it.
I’m not convinced a red state would dare put their metaphorical balls on the chopping block like that.
makes no difference
it is a state by state at this point in time like the cannabis issue and other laws have gone even Biden has gone for this
either are born in a state with favorable laws or not and some are not allowed to vote and some candidates are barred already from participating and nobody fussed about that why is this any different
Obama and Biden chained a candidate to chair for wanting to debate with Republicans and Democrats and they won that election and we voted Biden in
why should anything block someone being eligible for president now nobody cares unless that person is Trump or someone wanting different options other than not Trump
You realize it’s literally in the constitution that anyone taking part in an insurrection is barred from elected office (among other things) without 2/3rds approval from the house and senate?
You want to know why “no one cared until Trump”? Because it literally hadn’t happened in our lifetimes. It’s really hard to hold people accountable for things that aren’t happening.
Because drumpf commitment treason. Besides this is a matter of the doj and not the president.
