Valve have rolled out Age Verification requirements on Steam in Australia for 18+ content, requiring users to keep a Credit Card on their account.
  • TheFermentalist@reddthat.comEnglish
    17·
    11 days ago

    This is fucked. I don’t have a steam account, but my kids do.

    Two of the three are 18+, but don’t have a credit card. I do, but obviously they can’t link mine.

    Notwithstanding that the age verification laws are performative bullshit, how the fuck is it reasonable to only accept one form of ID that is not universally accepted? If you are going to force this shit onto people, at least mandate a wide variety of acceptable ID’s. For example, in Australia, you can get an 18+ card.

    Also, don’t fuck the web for the kids and then exclude the kids.

    • shads@leminal.spaceEnglish
      7·
      11 days ago

      What alternative do they have? There’s no fucking way I am presenting my ID to any website/online service. It’s bad enough when a credit card gets leaked online at least you can change your CC number. The Australian government isn’t going to pay for cosmetic surgery when your biometrics get leaked, and they will only cover the bare minimum in terms of the disruption when your Drivers License leaks. I trust Steam would at least three quarters arse their data security but the companies they end up dealing with to do local verifications… Pfft assume they follow a Swiss cheese model for data security practices and you are still giving them too much credit.

      Government could do something about that, but they won’t. Make the ID verification companies pay to change every bit of compromised info (they leak someone’s home address they have to pay for a new house on top of getting the maximum fine for each individual breach, I think it’s $850k per breach).

      The government should have hit that Discord breach that happened around when the age verification laws came into effect with the maximum fine when they had a few thousand IDs insecurely stored $8.5 billion would have sent a clear message, of course it would have also led to zero compliance from every other social media company with their bullshit laws which is why they wouldn’t then and they won’t now.

      So we get the worst of both worlds, the government shoving this bullshit through on one hand but having no interest in mandating proper data security on the other. It’s just going to lead to Meta, Apple, Google and Microsoft getting more personally identifying data they “grudgingly” hoover up, and them being willing to share it with all the governments of the world as the quid pro quo.

      I almost hope to see a few politicians and their immediate family get details leaked so they understand how fucked it is when you aren’t you any more because some fucker stole your identity. I talked to a guy who went through it in his 20s and he told me it made him genuinely suicidal at stages when the banks would get ahead of stuff only to have another CC application land on his credit file.

  • DrPop@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    11 days ago

    This is specifically for 18+ content which I’m assuming is just porn and not M rated games or whatever system they use in Australia.

  • internetisnotthesame@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    10 days ago

    Man, the whole internet became progressively “Well, we fucked up this platform, so let’s put the burden on the users instead of dealing with the core issues”.

    It’s nothing but putting a fake ass band aid over a whole body that bleeds so they can claim "yo we’re doing our part to prevent online bully/exposure/whatever :)) Every single system these companies come up with will give birth to more problems in the long run.

    I don’t mean Steam only, Electronic Arts has no public, easily accessible channels on their website at all. If you lose access to your account, well, good luck getting support because you need to be logged into your account for that. Ubisoft conceals their support agents’ name, to avoid individual liability. Epic games owns artstation, which has zero support channels that do not lead to a “uh oh this page doesn’t exist”. I can just go on. These companies are breaking consumer protection laws so blatantly, every single day I’m filing another complaint against them through judicial bodies. I wish more people were doing it, that was the only way I hear back from these companies and rectify their wrongdoing when they see somebody actually filed a complaint against them and they will be fucking fined for what they’re doing. If anyone interested, I can make a guideline how to file complaints against them through EU and the states organs, it’s fucking free, and doesn’t take so much time. Better than screaming at the void and expecting something to change.

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  • Dvixen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    11 days ago

    My debit card (I don’t have a credit card) won’t remove the age restriction, and there are no other ways to verify, not even my 20 year old PayPal already attached to Steam.

    I have games in my library I can no longer see the store page for. :/