Also, even with countries that have a public option private insurance is usually still allowed. There are zero good arguments against it and a lot of superfluous nonsense meant to muddy the waters.
Freedom for all would abolish private slave ownership and trade. There’s no precedent in Roman history.
This is how dumb arguments like this one sound. Only a genocidal maniac could unironically spew nonsense like this.
And still tries to decline your claims.
There was that little bit of time we got some claims through. Something about an Italian plumber.
My sister had her gallbladder removed a decade or two ago. It was basically exploding or something in the er. Really disgusting amounts of pain.
Anyway, she was immediately denied as they couldn’t determine whether her gallbladder removal was elective or not. The doctor said something like “well fuck that, that’s why we have a team of lawyers.”
I think that’s a pretty succinct summary. Without one or more lawyers at your disposal we might as well all get fucked.
NYT are a fascist mouthpiece
Fuck the NYT. I unsubscribed the moment they started shit talking Bernie back in the day.
As long as they keep publishing david brooks columns, they’re a mouthpiece for fascism
If you were still wondering if the NYT shills for the oligarchs…
Always have
But, they’re liberals!
/s
I’m starting to think they are putting in subliminal messages, making their base ask ask “hang on, why is this bad?” Much like Fox has the progressive talking points front and center.
That’s peak ignorance. Plenty of countries with universal heathcare have a thriving private medical insurance industry. The thing is they cannot force the scam level prices they do in the US, because private insurance is a ‘nice to have’ instead of a ‘must have’ thing.
We even have it here. Medicare/aid supplemental insurance is a massive market.
This whole piece: “But then I would make less money!!”
They do, and the article talks about that
You did read the article before forming an opinion about it right? Right???
oh no, my private insurance, which only gave life saving measure to an astonishing number of people who are alive and thriving today because one of their CEOs got shot in the fucking face, deservedly
Had me in the first half…
The only thing that we can statistically, empirically prove from that incident is that shooting insurance CEOs in the face provide a net positive for society.
and this theorem could be extrapolated into other segments too, besides healthcare.
Which is why they are so desperate to convict luigi, and why i’m so shocked they havent arranged an “accident” for him yet.
I thought the CEO was shot in the back. If we want to be scientific about it, we’d need data about them being shot in the face, too.
Right, because shooting in the face could give even better results. Line up the CEOs because we have some experiments to conduct!
Some are clever enough to know that killing him will make him into a martyr for millions…
I suspect that they will try something more devious… he needs to be publicly humiliated somehow.
Which is why they are so desperate to convict luigi, and why i’m so shocked they havent arranged an “accident” for him yet.
What would that accomplish? They want to have the trial and conviction to make an example out of him.
We have generations of data from countries all over the world with universal healthcare. It costs the people less, undeniably; there’s zero benefit to for-profit private insurance… for people, anyway (not corporations).
I’m not positive, but I think USA is the last “western nation” without it. So… US taxpayers actually send billions to other nations all over the globe, all of which have better healthcare. Nice.
Even Mexico has universal healthcare, soon they’ll be trying to end American migration…
Oh my God, it just dawned on me. Trump was right… Mexico will pay for the wall! Trump’s lowering US citizen’s standard of living severely so that they will have flee over the border by the millions and viola! Wall.
Brilliant.
My only qualm with it is whenever the Republicans get into office, they will weaken or destroy it. If we didn’t have scumbags in office, and scumbags voting for said scumbags, it would be amazing. Universal healthcare is absolutely the way.
there’s zero benefit to for-profit private insurance… for people, anyway (not corporations
In germany there are a lot of benefits through. Less waiting-time, broader choice of treatment, better service in hospitals, a room for yourself instead of a shared room, and also a wider choice of places to go. And in the end it’s even cheaper than public health. At least beyond a certain income - threshold. Highly unfair, but…
Nah, some do dual payer, which is less bad than USA, but still not true universal.
It’s basically universal healthcare but with a small excess on it, usually something quite low like €100
If there were two candidates I could vote for, one of them saying they would establish universal healthcare but allow private insurance to continue; and one who would establish universal healthcare and promise to abolish private insurance - I would emphatically vote for the latter.
There is no president in history of insurance being so expensive and worthless.
A national law against child labor was passed in 1916, but it was overturned by the Supreme Court in 1918. A 1919 law was also overturned. In the 1920s, an effort to pass a constitutional amendment failed, because of opposition from the South and from Catholics. The Fair Labor Standards Act (part of the New Deal) in 1938 finally ended child labor in factories, mines, and other occupations. Child labor has always been a factor in agriculture and that continues into the 21st century. — Wikipedia
Something tells me if we did a complete archive search of NYT (and, for that matter, WSJ), circa 1910-1940, we’d find that it has, indeed, defended child labor in the US.
https://flippedtips.com/plegal/save/clin1910s.html
Under “Stunned Nation Reacts” I guess they argued it should be left up to the states… Which is a defense of it, in the context of the time.
Yeah, states rights tends to come into play when ethical protections are opposed. Slavery abolition, and abortion access come to mind. We may see it again regarding gay marriage.
Curiously, the same players who oppose all these things are not for states rights when it comes to cannabis access.
it’s 80 or 90% owned by the same family from that time too.
I can only imagine what voting for a president or such would have been like back then. Voting for a local congress person, okay you might have known them or know someone who might know them. But the president, you were told who they were by what… 1 newspaper? Unless your family was paying for more than one, aka if your family knew to switch somehow
Olde Thimey federal candidates, including presidential candidates, actually traveled on the campaign trail, and would go town-to-town, make stump speeches (often on literal stumps) and gladhand by the hundreds. So the people often got to hear the candidates answer questions relevant to their own districts.
These remote media-only campaigns are unique to the post-radio age.
My wife needs a surgery thats likely to cost 18 to 20 grand without insurance, and I have to do some really careful math to figure out if putting her on my insurance would actually save us anything.
Most likely flying to Mexico for a week to get it done would be cheaper too.
I’m here waiting on insurance to approve a medication I need, like, eight months ago and which costs over a hundred thousand dollars per year (before insurance gets the negotiated price).
First set of pills was $483 with insurance. Bought the refill as uninsured, it was $38.
Our insurance industry is so broken it’s really just unfathomable.
My grandfather needed some medication. Only 3 months, but over $400 a month. I found a Canadian pharmacy, bought 3 months of it, had the doctor fax the script there, and it was less than $300 for the 3 months. It was quite literally a lifesaver for him and their finances.
The prescription I need is somewhat new/niche, but I will look into this.
The one I used was called The Great North Pharmacy. A lot of them wouldn’t take card payments for some reason and would only accept a mailed check. It didn’t sit right with me. They called me to do the standard “pharmacist overview” of the medication, and it arrived fairly quickly. I’m not trying to shill for them, but they were really good for what we needed. Good luck.
My brother spent eight fucking weeks with a constant migraine unable to walk or even stand up without falling over, before his insurance finally approved the MRI that discovered the golf-ball-sized tumor in his brain. Muigi Langione is all I can say.
I never thought that I would see a legit folk hero in my time.
If everything had to have precedent, nothing would ever change.
You just described why conservatives exist.
in the beginning there was nothing, and there nothing remained. Change is scary.
There is a precedent and it’s called the VA. The military is the largest socialist organization in the US.
