• comador @lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I’m so excited… For RFK and the US government to ban this due to some yet to be determined autism related reason.

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      14 days ago

      Happened last year, still spite over the COVID vaccine. As referenced in the article:

      As such, Moderna and Merck call their mRNA cancer vaccine a type of “neoantigen therapy.”

      The term avoids both “mRNA” and “vaccine,” which draw hostility from Trump’s anti-vaccine Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In addition to his concerted efforts to undermine lifesaving vaccines, Kennedy has canceled hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants for the development of mRNA vaccine technology.

      Not sure if this keyword strategy is what saved the program or if this was one of the ones allowed despite the cuts due to so much taxpayer money already invested.

      It was spring 2025 where the red state leaders were trying to ban mRNA vaccines, but that never went anywhere to my knowledge, hence the funding being cut to research instead.

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          It’s honestly hard to tell if it’s just Trump waffling, wanting to claim success for something he had nothing to do with, forgetting about this project, getting fooled by the switch in wording, or if they bribed or flattered him before it got cancelled. When so much ego and corruption is involved, it could really be anything.

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        14 days ago

        1 billion and they’ll give it to every 90 year old then say oh… it’s too expensive for those actually working or in school.

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    It’s absolutely awesome, I do wonder how we eventually deal with the flood of very sensible vaccines though. Like, of course we can poke children a lot in the first 12 years of their life and probably also combine a few of them like we did before, though there also are a metric fuckton of things mRNA vaccines are possible against. Poking children once every week sounds, uh… complicated.

    (Don’t get me wrong, I want a world where THAT is our problem)

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      A lot of vaccines are combined. MMR and DTaP, for example, were probably two you got as a child.

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          Luckily I’m from Europe, we’re not yet ruled by demented pedos.

          Indeed I thought about the MMR vaccine when I mentioned combining some. Though the side-effects can hit some children quite badly, still better than the illnesses.

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            Luckily I’m from Europe, we’re not yet ruled by demented pedos.

            The Church begs to differ

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              They said “not ruled by” not “don’t exist”.

              Church holds no power in most countries these days.

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                You’d be surprised how effective it can be at swaying their lambs to vote certain way.

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      Many of the new mRNA vaccines, especially those against cancer, aren’t usable that way anyways, e.g. from the article:

      individually tailored to target a patient’s unique cancer mutations

      So you get those, when you already have the disease, the reason it’s called a vaccine is because it’s making your immune system fight it instead of directly acting on the cause

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          That may well be the more correct term, I’m not in a medical profession, just read some articles about it (and news are usually not great about terminology). But as someone in another thread wrote, they’re calling this one a “neoantigen therapy” to avoid triggering RFK 🙄

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      At least for respiratory vaccines, nasal inhalation might be a future way of reducing pokes. I think I saw early research saying its more effective as its where the problem is, but that getting both might be better than one or the other still.

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      HPV vaccines (stops cervical cancer) are a thing here for girls and they don’t get them until they’re 12. They just go around the schools. This seems like it could be done later too, maybe at the same time.

      The vaccine schedule for kids is already pretty hefty. I can’t remember how many times we had to get them to the doctor but it felt like a lot when you’re already frazzled.

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        Boys should really get it too, they can transmit the virus causing the cancer… I think in Germany they just did a marketing campaign about this recently to push vaccination rates among men.

        True the schedule was already quite a thing, though it probably felt like more than it was. Perhaps they find a way to administer the mRNA vaccines orally like with the old polio one (but this time safely!), that way you could perhaps “sneak” it into a piece of candy or sth.

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          Yeah I’m not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving it to boys but it’s not part of the national vaccine schedule.

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              Every time such a calculation is made they should be forced by law to publicize the calculated worth of a humans life and/or health.

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                In the UK at least, decisions and rationale about which vaccinations and treatments should be publicly-funded via the NHS are published quite transparently. For example: https://www.nihr.ac.uk/story/preventing-cancer-extending-vaccination-boys

                Vaccinating everyone in the UK against everything for which vaccines are available (even against diseases with very low risk in the UK) would cost so much that the NHS would have to cut treatments with very high benefit-to-cost ratio.

                Therefore, below a certain benefit-to-cost threshold, the UK has no reasonable choice except to withhold public funding. The HPV vaccine for boys was right on that threshold. IMO, the UK did the right thing by funding the clear benefit (HPV vaccine for girls, whose risk was significantly higher per existing evidence) and extending it to boys when additional evidence showed it was worth doing so.

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              I have to wonder if vaccinating just some part of the boys’ population would have a higher benefit/cost ratio. Or vaccinating only in bigger cities.

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          Many of the cancers it prevents can be gotten regardless of sex. Among the cancers are throat and colorectal.

          Also prevents genital warts, which aren’t dangerous (HPV either will cause warts or cancer depending on the strain), but like, you can ensure you don’t get genital warts

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    Amazing stuff. Good news to hear and soon to be banned from my country because we’re being run by fucking morons and pedophiles…

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    MRNA vaccines will cure most cancer, the common cold, and evebtually the majority of human disease related to viruses (think MS, Parkinson’s, Malaria, etc)

    That why I couldn’t believe MAGA shitheads going after the technology they don’t even understand.