I would say in general men get more respect and attention but less sexual attention. And women get more sexual attention but less respect and professional attention.
Hey Mouselemming welcome to WomensStuff! We’re a trans inclusive women only community and ask cis men don’t post. Please read the rules pinned at the top
Hi I’m a cis woman and I’ve been here before although I don’t remember if I’ve posted.
I’m going to guess (and I freely admit these are just guesses) two things:
- You’re a man.
- You haven’t read the rules of the community you’re posting to.
How close am I?
Off by my 67 years as a woman. Perhaps my lived experience doesn’t align with yours. Edit: correction: before becoming a woman I was a girl. No such thing as an “underage woman.”
OK, sorry for the bad guess. My bad entirely.
No worries.
From my own experiences with being a man, and being seen as a man, I definitely got way more respect than I do now. I also got a good deal of attention, but it wasn’t the kind of attention you were talking about.
Being a woman I get a lot of sexual attention, literally just yesterday even. And definitely get a lot less respect from people than I used too, even when I am able to pass I get less. Got even less when I was visibly trans and couldn’t even remotely pass.
I mostly agree but it’s all bell curve all the time. There are always extremes that’ll be the exception to the rule.
Broadly I agree. There’s narrow slivers of outliers on both sides, but yes, the overall pattern leans this way.
Chiming in as a woman who gets no attention.
Chiming in as a woman who gets no attention.
Are you 200+kg? Does your face look like it’s been cut apart and incorrectly reassembled? Are you grotesquely crippled to the point of needing a full-time care aid?
If not: X Doubt.
For almost all men, the only time in their life that they ever receive flowers is on the day of their funeral.
When men are complimented by a woman, they hold that treasured memory for years, because it might be the only time in their life where a woman other than a direct relative compliments them.
When men date, the average man typically suffers a direct rejection rate of 98% to 100%. Vanishingly few men see a rejection rate of less than 90%. Comparatively speaking, the average woman sees a rejection rate of about 30-35%.
Compared to the average man, you are likely marinating in attention.
Against other women, probably not. And for that alone you have my sympathies. But vs the average man? Absolutely.
Hi, did you notice that you not only completely denied my experience and assumed you knew my life better than me, but you did so on in a community that specifically only allows women and non-binary participation?
you not only completely denied my experience
No, I did not. All I did was make a comparison. It’s like complaining about a paper cut to a quadruple amputee.
Sure, that metaphorical paper cut stings. I’m not denying that. But even as that metaphorical quadruple amputee I’m not allowed to show my own pain or even mention it - if I did, women everywhere would call me an Incel and tell me to “man up”, even if I had zero responsibility into whatever led to my current state.
So as a man, my only choice is to hide the pain, knuckle under, and force myself to carry on. Making it known in any way whatsoever would only make things worse, so I don’t. I just focus on intrinsic motivation and the things I can actually control, and try to find a little of my own peace in this world.
Because holding a victim mentality is one hell of a nerf. No-one is attracted to that.
It sounds like you’re experiencing some tough emotions and need support. Please delete this and repost at https://lemmy.world/c/dadforaminute. This is specifically a community for women, and I wish you well in your journey, but it is not the right place for this discussion.
It sounds like you’re experiencing some tough emotions and need support.
No, I do not. Society - and more specifically, women - have shown how they punish men who show weakness of any kind, and I am not about to intentionally or willingly shoot myself in the foot. I’m done with the psychological abuse, gaslighting, and DARVO attempts.
Disagree. I respect myself now.
Respect is attention. Women are objectified.
Men get respect/attention, women are treated like objects.
No. Men don’t get respect. A
I’m going to guess (and I freely admit these are just guesses) two things:
- You’re a man.
- You haven’t read the rules of the community you’re posting to.
How close am I?
Yeah yeah yeah, we get it, men are the real victims, women suck, etc etc
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