Good way to ensure that whatever regime rises from the ashes will be even more backwards than the last.
I mean, that is their goal.
If anything, I think this will motivate the government to build even more.
All they are doing is creating generations of future enemies.
one thousand new hamas’es, so they can continue to have someone to point to while they do their genocides
They don’t need hamas to commit genocide. See e.g. the west bank. They will find an excuse anyway, at least hamas actually puts up a resistance.
Bold of you to assume the US and Israel will last generations in their current forms.
The Nazis didn’t create generations of future enemies for Germany.
No country lasts generations in a static form. That’s not a thing.
which is why authoritarians in thier last grasp of power, is trying everything to distract thier own population, and others from an internal uprising.
but they will be poor and potentially malnutrition and potentially civil warring for the foreseeable future.
At least that seems to be the hope
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Why on earth would they not want death to the west? It’s not like we haven’t deserved it. Israel is way more extreme than either Hamas or Hezbollah. That’s what happens when you create an ethnostate, arm them to the teeth, and back them unconditionally for generations.
I take some slogans everyday instead of death and destruction.
Israel is the enemy of all humanity. Earth will not be in peace until these religious lunatics are destroyed.
Including the ones in the whitehouse
Primarily the ones there. Hegseth thinks he is starting a crusade to bring about Armageddon.
Add Saudi Arabia, they were in on Iraq and they placed Iran in their crosshairs.
More UAE than Saudi, but yes. MBZ is an Israeli puppy, MBS is just a moron.
I remember them saying and acting like Iraq was always a place of poor literacy, conflict, and poverty and a stone age culture.
Without ever acknowledging that this was basically the point (which many said in the lead up to the war in 2002) of the Iraq war.
The United States of ISISrael
Oh god who let .ml and hexbear into these comments
Muting those instances made Lemmy a lot more pleasant. Highly recommended
How to do that?
In your account settings there’s an option to block and mute instances and communities
And thus, debate is dead, and your cozy bubble is formed. I get banning troll users, but banning a whole instance is a step towards killing what the federation is supposed to stand for.
There’s a difference between debating and toxic fascism
Can’t debate a bot.
That’s no debate with insincerity, only a platform for lies.
Those extremists are not here to debate. They are here to push propaganda. Why would you want to engage with someone who isn’t arguing in good faith?
I get what you’re saying, but there is no objective defence for what is Russia doing in Europe. Anyone who sides with Russia or defends Russia either has personal interests in it, or the person is so easily brainwashed they’re more dangerous than LLMs
Nope, it’s the best decision I made. I don’t want to debate extremists that start insulting me as soon as a I don’t agree with all of their takes.
And btw at least with my client/instance, banning an instance doesn’t ban the users, so you can still interact with them on other instances.
Edit: And I don’t want to generalise, I’m sure there are .ml users that are fine. But I’ve had enough bad interactions with them that it warrants an instance ban.
the only other .ml that isnt politicals just engage in tech content like they are supposed to. somehow tankies co-opted .ml as a political haven, might have something to do with a tankie developer though.
they can smell russia/china criticism and they come like rabid dogs.
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Nah legit, the anti-tankie brigade puts out their delusion before the tankies even show… every time
also following PUTINS lead, considering this was the pretext of lifting sanctions russian oil.
Its a war of extermination.
Yes but some of them chanted Death to America – completely uncalled for – so what goes around comes around
Those chants were pretty epic. Also they have some nice anti-USA murals like this one:
Gotta admit that mural is pretty fire.
مرك بر آمريكا - “mrk br amrika”
anybody knows what it means?
Marg bar Âmrikâ - It’s a declaration of their love towards Amerikkka
Completely uncalled for
Someone doesn’t know a lick of history.
It appears that sarcasm doesn’t translate well to text, even with aggressive use of emdashes and italics
He is not satisfied destroying education in the just US.
I mean they already killed their own.
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Zionists, the word is zionists.
O.K. call me super nieve but and I mean a HUGE BUT, what if it became an actual working democracy? I know it sounds absolutely coo coo insane-o-style but a democracy with rules for the almost but not quite equal capitalism we once had. A regulated capitalism that doesn’t squash indevidual , independent voice. Or smother it with Hush money.
You are probably not aware that in the 1950 they were on a good way and the usa and britain overthrew their elected government and installed the radical regime because democratic Iran wanted to sell their oil by themselves? (Very shortend version, please search for details and nuances by yourself)
This implies that the radical regime somehow was more conducive to US interests and did not in turn want to “sell their oil by themselves” too, which is… doubtful. Had that been the case things would have turned out differently.
Yeah the US shouldnt be there but neither should the ayatollah and the council of clerics.
I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic, but democracy and capitalism are fundamentally incompatible. “Equal capitalism” is an oxymoron.
They said “almost” and would be accurate in that sense of using the same means just applied, explosives, to reach the speed of light, as material.
You’re just hoping for Iran to develop a better functioning democracy than the US after it was “bombed back to the stone ages”?
That IS super nieve.
iran was a democracy prior to the SHAH which was installed by the UK/US. the islamic revolution /current regime is more or less US’s fault.
Yes, the US will bomb them into a functional democracy.
I’ll have what this guy is smoking, holy shit
Such ideal popular democracies generally need a culture conducive to those. Not all cultures favor democratic politics.
Correction, that is not Israel’s goal. Israel’s goal is to expand their own territory, and it should never be allowed.
If Israel’s goal was the collapse of the Iranian state then that would be admirable because it’s a horrible fucking state. But, again, it is not.
A failed state doesn’t just imply the fall of a government, it refers to a degradation of the conditions of a country such that effective governance by anyone is impossible for a period. Think like has happened in Somalia, or Haiti. I’m not going to claim that the Iranian government is a particularly admirable one, but that kind of condition would be even worse for the people living there, and the chances of that process resting in something significantly better when the country finally recovers again aren’t terribly high.
TBH I think even total anarchy, with roving bands of raiders, might be better than a country that wages war on every neighbor, starves its own people, and kills thousands of protestors in a short time period. The fact that they ally themselves with China is just more on the pile.
True, let’s hope Israel falls into Anarchy. Ah wait, they only starve the people they ethnically clean, are you talking about Israel???
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They realize they have to kill them slow or else other countries will step in. It’s also why they’re fighting tooth and nail against the ICC’s genocide determination, even having VISA and Mastercard blacklist the judge.
Anarchy is not roving bands of raiders. That’s Mad Max you’re thinking of.
Anarchy is a way of living without a hierarchical authority dictating to the people.
It doesn’t have to be, but it certainly can be. I’ll have you know that the roving band of raiders are well read anarcho-communists helpfully enforcing their anti-hierarchical beliefs via a system of rotating shifts of community enforcers of public safety and security, and forcefully redistributing food. It’s just that this specific case happens to involve killing everyone who disagrees with them.
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You won’t hear any complaints from me if you support killing Trump or funding the resistance, as long as that resistance isn’t backed by something worse like China.
That said, even at it’s weakest the state of the USA is leagues above the hardships faced by Iranian civillians.
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Total racist
Nothing is worse than the US.
The US has the worlds largest prison population to facilitate racial slave labour, it covertly medical tests on its people, forces sterilisation on people it deems undesirable, engages in international genocide, promotes fascism and mass murders in foreign lands, and so and so on. It is the most evil, harmful and destructive nation in history.
lmfao
Iran executes gay people and helped Israel (who is also worse than the USA) start a genocide.
The US rapes children and covers it up.
And Iran did not help Israel start a genocide. Fuck off with that “oh they helped Palestinians/Hamas defend themselves, that means they’re responsible for Israel’s genocide” shit take you keep trying to push.
So you’re implying that Russia’s attack on Ukraine should have never been allowed as well - but I have yet to see any American 🇺🇸 troups there.
I see their long range missiles there, despite every effort by the compromised Trump admin.
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That would be a really great argument, if not for the fact that Palestine has been shrinking in land area for decades and that Netanyahu’s regime helped Iran supply funds and weapons to Hamas.
Science is also how they can cause such devastation. Maybe all you scientists should stop empowering the assholes who murder people?
Science didn’t put assholes in control. It is the anti science US, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers who put them in.
But science builds the machines of war. Science unlocks the power inevitably used by those leaders to make war. Scientists are not free from responsibility just because they don’t pull the trigger. They enable the building of the entire gun. At what point to scientists say ‘no more’ and refuse to continue to empower these leaders?
Hi Ted! Didn’t know they let you have the net in there!
