From wikipedia: “Pirate Party is a label adopted by political parties around the world. Pirate parties support civil rights, direct democracy (including e-democracy) or alternatively participation in government, reform of copyright and patent laws to make them more flexible and open to encourage innovation and creativity, use of free and open-source software, free sharing of knowledge (open content and open access), information privacy, transparency, freedom of information, free speech, anti-corruption, net neutrality and oppose mass surveillance, censorship and Big Tech.”

  • Scrath@feddit.deEnglish
    64·
    2 年前

    I just wished they were more relevant in german politics.

    It’s the typical dilemma. Vote for a party you know won’t get enough votes to do something or vote for the least bad of the established parties.

    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      22·
      2 年前

      There’s more to joining a party than voting. You can join the party that advocates for the issues you care about and vote for the party that could actually win and is the lesser evil

      • ares35@kbin.social
        7·
        2 年前

        better to support via votes, funding, spreading-the-word, and volunteer efforts, than to label oneself a ‘pirate’ (or anything, really) on voter registrations, which are public data here. i’ll stick with “independent” on that form, tyvm.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 年前

        The issue is that the politicians benefitting from First Past The Post voting would need to be the ones to enact preferred voting. They benefit from FPTP because it locks voters into the two party “any third party vote is wasted” system. And they have zero reason to change that, because they would be legislating themselves out of office. The two big parties would suffer massive losses if people were able to vote for who they actually wanted, so those two parties have a vested interest in preserving FPTP voting systems.

  • somenonewho@feddit.deEnglish
    534·
    2 年前

    Yeah … No.

    I’m generally not a fan of party politics (though I realize you often have to bite the bullet on voting). But the pirate party here (Germany) is a really problematic bunch some of them thinking freedom means free markets some of them thinking free speech means they should be able to say hateful Nazi shit … Really not a party I want to vote for, even in a pinch.

  • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
    3610·
    2 年前

    free speech

    In the context of an intense commitment to an open internet I’d honestly need to know a bit more about what this means in my own country’s pirate party. “Free speech” is often just a disingenuous shield when bigots want to be be bigots without social consequences.

    • moody@lemmings.worldEnglish
      91·
      2 年前

      “Free speech” is often just a disingenuous shield when bigots want to be be bigots without social consequences.

      While this is often true, it also often applies to many people who have things to say that their government don’t want them to.

  • Trd@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    262·
    2 年前

    They lack a bit on all other agendas, like education, healthcare etc

    • kennismigrant@feddit.nlEnglish
      182·
      2 年前

      They don’t have to cover everything. Pirate Parties often ally with other parties that cover other specific problems, e.g. Piratenpartij & De Groenen (“Pirate Party” and “The Greens” alliance) in Netherlands, and they work well together.

      • Obinice@lemmy.worldEnglish
        68·
        2 年前

        They absolutely have to cover everything. The idea of voting a politician into office knowing they aren’t competent in all aspects of their job is wild to me.

        Am I going to vote for an MP that has no knowledge of policies on healthcare, welfare, etc? Of course not, that would be deeply irresponsible.

        • kennismigrant@feddit.nlEnglish
          7·
          2 年前

          This might be OK depending on your location and the government system in place. Voting for a single person that has to answer all questions sounds like UK or US to me.

          Take a look at the Finnish or the Dutch parliament. 7, 8, 16 parties there? Independent (no-party) politicians too. Each one of them is free to represent people with specific needs and only focus on that.

          Also keep in mind that some questions like “healthcare” and “welfare” may be less relevant too. It can be pretty much resolved (you can always promise to “increase doctors’ wages by 30%!”). More specific issues remain.

  • Overzeetop@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    2 年前

    I love piracy like I love electricity - it makes my life easier, and I will extoll the virtues when asked. It doesn’t rise to a core political belief for me, though.