Since Discord has decided to set itself on fire you might be looking for an alternative. Fluxer is open source (AGPL), selfhostable and based in Sweden. But maybe wait a while before you try to install the server yourself because the dev writes on github:
I know it’s hard to resist, but please wait a little longer before you dive deep into the current codebase or try to set up self-hosting. I’m aware the current stack isn’t very lightweight. In the next update, self-hosting should be straightforward, with a small set of services: Fluxer Server (TypeScript) using SQLite for persistence, Gateway (Erlang), and optionally LiveKit for voice and video.
The developer hosted instance has a Nitro-like premium tier for their service named Plutonium, if you selfhost you get all the premium features for free.
Fluxer is not federated (yet), but according to the website, federation is planned in the near(-ish) future. Furthermore the service is a bit spotty at the moment as they are fighting with an unusually big influx of new users.
It’s on Tubu. It’s literally on Heebee. It’s on Poodee with ads. It’s literally on Dippy. You can probably find it on Weeno. Dude it’s on Gumpy. It’s a Pheebo original. It’s on Poob. You can watch it on Poob. You can go to Poob and watch it. Log onto Poob right now. Go to Poob. Dive into Poob. You can Poob it. It’s on Poob. Poob has it for you. Poob has it for you.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poob-has-it-for-you for context, seems like a lot of people downvoting this comment don’t have any clue
Grand poob is too much for the brain.
Yup. That’s why we need something federated and standards based, something that is interoperable.
https://snikket.org/ https://mov.im/
There are many more and you can freely choose your provider. And when it does something you don’t agree with - enshittifying - just move to another provider. Federation: Keep your contacts, not your provider.
What
People are paralysed by the lack of monopoly, choice makes them feel unwell. Also, all the tech names are as stupid as the language permits them to be, some are worse
Seems to me like a naive reception of the criticisms brought up.
It is genuinely confusing for, admittedly uninformed, users who might want to switch over to decide between the options. There is no guidance, no online consensus, no indicator, what is slop, what maintained etc…
And not addressing decision fatigue rampant in (specifically this) FOSS space is IMO a major factor in holding back its adoption.
A mastodon post by a user named June, @June@wolfd(here it’s truncated due to length) Transcript:
Have you seen the new chat platform? It’s on Stoat. It’s literally on Fluxer. It’s on Discord with ads. It’s literally on Root. You can probably find it on Spacebar. Dude it’s on Squirrel Chat. It’s a Rocket chat original. It’s on TeamSpeak 3. You can collaborate on Chanty. You can go to Twist and work on it. Log onto Wire right now. Go to Viber. Dive into Zangi. You can Zulip it. It’s on Pumble. Osmium has it for you. DCTS has your back. You can use Jitsi. You can get it with Chatmail. It’s a discourse exclusive. Nanochat it right this second.
In all seriousness, try out Fluxer. It’s FOSS and they promise federation in the future.
In the modern internet, these alternative services have to be federated in order to withstand mass migrations.
It’s self hosted which is good enough. I’ll just ignore the cloud version and host an instance for me and my buddies.
But then your buddies will want to join some other server, hosted by someone else, and so they will have to create yet another account. And have yet another client running?
Exactly.
Consider Snikket and Fluux.
For me discord was never a suitable alternative to community forums. It successfully made itself one though but for my use case voice chat with my friends is all I need. I’m only on one server on discord, but I connect to multiple ts3 servers.
Exactly. Which is why I think the federated (and very similarly named) Fluux will have much more success than this.
I’m not going to create another account on two, three or a dozen server if I already have a federated account I can use anywhere.
The problem is to move the users over. People aren’t willing to change
This one REALLY is like discord, and I’d say with the incoming ID-checks people will be more open to change
I’m a bit worried it’s too much like discord. I expect if it got popular, discord may fight it
Worst case if it gets to that point is it’ll need a reskin which would be fine tbh
And if it’s just a couple large instances that do not federate they can also pull off stupid stuff, because it is not federated.
This would not happen with Movim, for example.
You can just freely choose any server you like and that has values you agree with.
Fluxer really looks great. Might be the greatest alternative to discord, made in EU. But fluxer is tired these days. Too much traffic…
Why not Stoat? Main dev is in the UK so unfortunately not in the EU, but it’s been around a lot longer than most of these alternatives, and seems to be the main one i hear about
Stoat doesn’t have the ball as rolling.
It’s still up to stoat and fluxer to show they can deliver and attract discord users
It looks very nice, but unfortunately it’ll likely not really reach mass-appeal just due to no proper mobile app (yet).
Personally I’ll definitely look into moving over with the communities I really enjoy using - but the masses will not move in my experience. You can see with how reddit still exists.
Mumble literally still works. The last 20 years of UI design were a mistake, we must return to tradition!
Sounds lewd.
Like any open sauce should.I like it.
From first glance this looks much better than Stoat as an alternative.
But does not allow you to freely choose a provider, which makes it far easier to enshittify if people cannot leave, something like https://mov.im/ could solve this.
What do you mean? You can selfhost once the setup is wrapped up https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer
There’s still no free choice, users will be bound to their provider and whatever path the enshittification will take.
I can’t register on it. Captcha authentification is broken
Edit: Registration works now. But where is the software so I can self-host an instance?
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The only reason they can enshittify Discord is because it’s centralized. And you want another centralized version?
Did you just stop reading after a couple of words, or why do you ask questions I have already answered?
