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Heinously Unethical

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https://healthpolicy-watch.news/controversial-us-backed-vaccination-study-begins-in-guinea-bissau/

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  • BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
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    SCIENCE is BAD so we’re going to Give BABIES Diseases for Science!

    -Republicans but LITERALLY!

    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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      Satire is dead

      • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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        Dead for many, many years.

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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      At this point, Republicans are just cinobites. Pain and suffering is good, anything that removes it is bad.

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    So the US are experimenting on foreign newborns?

    Real pro-life there, buddy.

    • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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      The US is a rogue state. What do you expect?

      • 87Six@lemmy.zip
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        Its gov to burn finally

  • FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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    in collaboration with researchers in Denmark

    So much for a utopian socialist society (pay no attention to those men behind the green curtain!)

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      Lol you thought the Danes were the good guys!?

      • BunScientist@lemmy.zip
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        Perhaps not good, but maybe not as evil

        • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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          I will give the Danes “not the appearance of evil currently award”. They have an ever growing income inequality and are scared of the typical bogeymen like Muslims. They got some deep seated issues so it is only a matter of time.

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    I’m seeing some conflicting reports indicating that study might have been canceled, there’s conflicting information from different sources. Still awful that this was even considered in the first place.

    • naught101@lemmy.world
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      Why not link them?

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        I found this Guardian Article pretty comprehensive. In includes and explains the uncertainty about the status.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/15/hepatitis-b-vaccines-study-africa-cancel

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        Because I’ve seen conflicting reports and I don’t want to inadvertently spread misinfo.

        • naught101@lemmy.world
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          That’s what caveats are for. Also if it’s a dodgy source, people will definitely let you know. Unsourced information may as well be misinformation.

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    This tweet is conflating two different countries, Guinea and Guinea-Bissau, using their names interchangeably. The linked article is solely about the latter.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/15/hepatitis-b-vaccines-study-africa-cancel

    Seems there is hope that it won’t happen

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      thank fuck, jesus fucking christ how evil can one administration be

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        They know they can’t (currently) do studies like this in the US, but they can in other countries.

        RFK jr. Is an indirect serial killer, that is my theory. He had his ex-wife and a few other people he knew commit suicide due to his abuse.

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    So we are at the eugenics part of the Amerikkklan Nazi Regime.

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      Nah. The US has always done shit like this to minorities, domestically and abroad.

      Some experiments on US citizens:

      • The Tuskegee Experiment
      • The Birth Control trials
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        Yeah one reason among many why many black people (and maybe other poc?) don’t trust the healthcare system in the us.

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        For some extra fun, search for Denmark Greenland and forced contraceptives. It gives more flavour to how the toddler in chief is demanding that somebody get him Greenland.

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      The US never actually stopped it, really.

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    And you kind of know already that this study will be manipulated so that is shows that vaccination is bad and then millions of people will be harmed.

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      Given that he said things like ‘we will know by september’ for some studies and come that date he has ‘data’ to prove his point. All of it is bullshit and all he knows is that no matter what there will be shit that he can twist into proving his claim.

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    No, no, look - they are pro-life. Just not this life in particular. This life can go fuck itself.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board …

    is necessary in the 21st century globally

    and we rarely talk about the Doctors Trial of the Nazis.

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    He’s experimenting on your children to work through his own ignorance.

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    Possible good news from a week after the article:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/childhood-vaccines/controversial-cdc-hep-b-vaccine-study-guinea-bissau-may-be-canceled

  • 🏴حمید پیام عباسی🏴@crazypeople.online
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    The Hague? The court that Americans can’t be tried at because they don’t recognize the ICCs jurisdiction and are not a member of the Rome statute?

    Real problems don’t have liberal solutions. The Americans deserve far worse.

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    I don’t see the point of the study tbh. But neither the outrage. Mostly because not every country vaccinates at the same time after birth so there’s no need to test it specifically. Just compare infants from different countries.

    You don’t even have to go that far. Denmark vaccinates right after birth (if I can understand Der gives tre doser på hhv. dag 0, efter 1 måned og efter 6 måneder. correctly) while Germany vaccinates after 2 months: Die ersten beiden Impfungen im Alter von 2 und 4 Monaten, die dritte Impfung im Alter von 11 Monaten. Literally just take a sample from both of these countries.

    I was apparently vaccinated after 2 months, 3 months, 4 months and 1 year according to my vaccine certificate.

    Edit: Small update, can see the issue with doing this in Guinea-Bisset

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      I guess we can all see why you aren’t a scientist.

      Guinea-Bisset has one of the highest rates of Hep B infections in the world. Nearly 1 in 5 people there have chronic Hep B, and 90% of babies exposed at birth develop a chronic infection.

      In America, 1 in 1,200 have Hep B. Not 1 in 5. DRASTICALLY more people have Hep B in Guinea-Bisset, greatly increasing the chance of infant exposure.

      That’s why there is outrage. This should be basic common sense.

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        That makes more sense, I somehow skipped the sentence (in the image) mentioning the high rate.

        I was a bit mislead by the claim this study couldn’t be done in the US/Denmark because of medical ethics. More like it would have been unethical and not approved were the infection rate equally as high. If the point is only seeing whether there are neurodevelopmental disabilities associated with administering the vaccine right after birth then obviously Guinea-Bisset would be the very last choice.

        Thanks for pointing this out though!

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        If the rate is so low in the US, why would it be unethical to do it there? You could also take samples from babies whose parents are getting or refusing the vaccine anyways. Sure, those decisions on their own will introduce more variables, but they could do a “outcomes of being raised by pro/anti vaccine/medicine parents” study.

        If the goal was the truth, at least. It would be hard to do that study without any bias either way, with how political the whole thing is.

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    This is the kind of thing by which Denmark should quite rightously lose Greenland. Alas, ironically it’d be to the US.

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      Yeah, two lunatics whom no one takes seriously in Denmark and have been vehemently against for years suddenly represent the whole nation and are the reason we should “lose” Greenland. Also, we can’t lose Greenland because Greenland belongs to itself and can detach from our kingdom at any time if they so please. Unless of course they are invaded and forcefully stolen by the US. Remember to chew before you swallow your food.

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        How can they chew if they need to breath through their mouth at the same time?

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          Oh fuck, I didn’t think about that.

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      These particular Danes are nutbags, plucked for the purpose. Denmark as a nation and state are very pro evidence based medicine and vaccines, and very against abuse of Indigenous people.

      It wasn’t always so, but it is so now, and has been at least half a century. Please don’t lump us all in with the few crazy ones.

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        The nutbags in question: Dr Christine Stabell Benn and her husband Dr Peter Aaby

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          DuckDuckGoed the woman, and oh god the headlines…

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        Then, what are you doing about the few crazy ones?

        If they are doing this is because you let them.

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          They are not platformed in Denmark. I never heard about them until this business started. If another country wants to platform them, we can’t really do anything about that.

          We can’t censor or imprison people for doing bullshit science. All we can do is ignore them.

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