Bethesda (game developer of Fallout games) called it in Fallout 4. The Vaults as seen in the games (and the TV show) seem to have the purpose of keeping radiation out, in the case of nuclear war. That was the advertised purpose. In Fallout 4 (one of the DLCs), it is revealed that their actual purpose is to build them on other planets. Robots do the terraforming while humanity lives in the bunker, and the humans come out when it’s safe.
Elon Musk is trying to get people to Mars. That’s where the bunker will be. They’ll leave us Earth, after stripping its resources and leaving us with the climate change and all that good stuff.
It’s not bathesda idea, oryginal fallouts were meant as a testing chambers for Vault-Tec. Only some were meant literally for survival of the wealthiest.
and that was the idea from the original game (1997). Although I don’t think it was part of the GURPS Vault 13 (the game that became FO1, circa 1994-1995)
vault 13 was intended to be a control vault- no experiment except normal behavior until it opened.
however, we find out in fo1 there was a mistake and instead of getting 2 GECKS and a supply of water chips, it got 3 GECKS and 1 water chip, due to a shipping mix up. This was not intentional by vault tec tho
vault 15, the only other vault also in fo1 was an experimentation of having people of mixed races, backgrounds and social standings all given equal status inside the vault
the majority of experimentation in FO1 is unrelated to Vault Tec and more to do with The Master and his FEV experiments
That’s actually explained in Fallout 2, the water chip wasn’t intentional they were supposed to get crates of the damned things. Problem was they got a GECK while Vault 8 (Vault-city) got the water chips, it was a manifest fuckup that was never corrected due to nuclear war.
Though Vault-Tec were not actually very good at their job. The small number of vaults we see in the games that were intended to work as advertised (whether as a control group or something else) all had something go wrong.
I was thinking robots to build/assemble the stuff, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be workers. I can see them offering pardons for condemned criminals (i.e. inmates… possibly also immigrants… maybe some Democrats) to go and do some of the work. But by the time we can get people to Mars, we’ll have advanced robotics enough that the humans won’t really be “working.”
The big hurdle now is how long it takes to get there and maintaining communication with Earth. I think our fastest shuttles/rockets can get to Mars in a couple years? So you’d need to send people, with enough supplies to make the trip, and enough materials to build sustainable habitats. So I really do think the first couple will be unmanned. They’ll send robots to assemble the stuff. Then they’ll test it remotely, and they’ll send people with plants and whatnot.
Anyway, it’s all a pipe dream right now in 2026. Keep in mind Fallout’s world isn’t ours. They were 52 years ahead of us (2077, IIRC) when they nuked each other. And they were using nuclear power to power all kinds of things, and had robot servants for home use and for military. I don’t know, and I don’t think we know, how far they got as far as space travel, but that was their plan. We are on a different (and not fictional) timeline, so we will have our own hurdles to get over before it could be real. But that’s what I think Elon Musk’s interest in Mars/space travel is all about.
I don’t think they’ll care if they can make machines make them comfortable.
I also don’t really believe the Mars thing. I’m just saying, science fiction has already laid the groundwork (and Fallout is just a video game, it’s hardly the first medium to suggest this).
A better solution would be under the sea. If they can solve the pressure issue, they can build whole colonies right here on Earth, seal them up, and just drop them in the ocean. Then send submersibles down there. Maybe they can even have staged depth modules where you would descend so far, wait for a week to normalise pressure, then descend to the next level. Each module would have living quarters, medical facilities, all that. The reason I suggest under the sea is, it would be colder (you’d need energy to warm it up) and that would be great for the kinds of AI work they want to do.
Then again, if they just want the cold, they can also remove depth from the equation and set up in the Arctic. Like the northern parts of Canada… or Greenland, which the American president and his cronies are trying to seize (or buy? Not sure on that). Screw it, let them have the northern third, move all of them there, and leave the rest of the world alone.
Bethesda (game developer of Fallout games) called it in Fallout 4. The Vaults as seen in the games (and the TV show) seem to have the purpose of keeping radiation out, in the case of nuclear war. That was the advertised purpose. In Fallout 4 (one of the DLCs), it is revealed that their actual purpose is to build them on other planets. Robots do the terraforming while humanity lives in the bunker, and the humans come out when it’s safe.
Elon Musk is trying to get people to Mars. That’s where the bunker will be. They’ll leave us Earth, after stripping its resources and leaving us with the climate change and all that good stuff.
It’s not bathesda idea, oryginal fallouts were meant as a testing chambers for Vault-Tec. Only some were meant literally for survival of the wealthiest.
and that was the idea from the original game (1997). Although I don’t think it was part of the GURPS Vault 13 (the game that became FO1, circa 1994-1995)
Interesting, I didn’t know FO spawned from GURPS
They did, originally they wanted that system but it was copyrighted and the holders didn’t want them to use it for fallout.
Fallout 1 came out in 1997. But yeah something did go wrong for them as their water purification chip went wrong. The vaults were pure evil.
that’s what I said, maybe you misread?
but minor note of clarification:
vault 13 was intended to be a control vault- no experiment except normal behavior until it opened.
however, we find out in fo1 there was a mistake and instead of getting 2 GECKS and a supply of water chips, it got 3 GECKS and 1 water chip, due to a shipping mix up. This was not intentional by vault tec tho
vault 15, the only other vault also in fo1 was an experimentation of having people of mixed races, backgrounds and social standings all given equal status inside the vault
the majority of experimentation in FO1 is unrelated to Vault Tec and more to do with The Master and his FEV experiments
That’s actually explained in Fallout 2, the water chip wasn’t intentional they were supposed to get crates of the damned things. Problem was they got a GECK while Vault 8 (Vault-city) got the water chips, it was a manifest fuckup that was never corrected due to nuclear war.
Though Vault-Tec were not actually very good at their job. The small number of vaults we see in the games that were intended to work as advertised (whether as a control group or something else) all had something go wrong.
No one is leaving to live on Mars during our lifetimes. And the first people there are guaranteed to be workers, not billionaires.
Define “live”. I wouldn’t be surprised if we sent a handful of people at a time for one-way trips in the medium future.
there’s a chance the american empire doesn’t even last beyond the next decade, we ain’t sending nobody to mars.
In that case perhaps we’ll advance to a better economic system that explores space without the need for profit.
I was thinking robots to build/assemble the stuff, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be workers. I can see them offering pardons for condemned criminals (i.e. inmates… possibly also immigrants… maybe some Democrats) to go and do some of the work. But by the time we can get people to Mars, we’ll have advanced robotics enough that the humans won’t really be “working.”
The big hurdle now is how long it takes to get there and maintaining communication with Earth. I think our fastest shuttles/rockets can get to Mars in a couple years? So you’d need to send people, with enough supplies to make the trip, and enough materials to build sustainable habitats. So I really do think the first couple will be unmanned. They’ll send robots to assemble the stuff. Then they’ll test it remotely, and they’ll send people with plants and whatnot.
Anyway, it’s all a pipe dream right now in 2026. Keep in mind Fallout’s world isn’t ours. They were 52 years ahead of us (2077, IIRC) when they nuked each other. And they were using nuclear power to power all kinds of things, and had robot servants for home use and for military. I don’t know, and I don’t think we know, how far they got as far as space travel, but that was their plan. We are on a different (and not fictional) timeline, so we will have our own hurdles to get over before it could be real. But that’s what I think Elon Musk’s interest in Mars/space travel is all about.
They can stay on that planet with a worse climate than whatever we will have after climate change.
I don’t think they’ll care if they can make machines make them comfortable.
I also don’t really believe the Mars thing. I’m just saying, science fiction has already laid the groundwork (and Fallout is just a video game, it’s hardly the first medium to suggest this).
A better solution would be under the sea. If they can solve the pressure issue, they can build whole colonies right here on Earth, seal them up, and just drop them in the ocean. Then send submersibles down there. Maybe they can even have staged depth modules where you would descend so far, wait for a week to normalise pressure, then descend to the next level. Each module would have living quarters, medical facilities, all that. The reason I suggest under the sea is, it would be colder (you’d need energy to warm it up) and that would be great for the kinds of AI work they want to do.
Then again, if they just want the cold, they can also remove depth from the equation and set up in the Arctic. Like the northern parts of Canada… or Greenland, which the American president and his cronies are trying to seize (or buy? Not sure on that). Screw it, let them have the northern third, move all of them there, and leave the rest of the world alone.
As a Nordic person, no thanks. Send the fuckers into space or the sea I don’t care but don’t push them here.
Sorry. The assumption I made was the space nobody uses. Like how most Canadians live within 100 miles of the US due to the climate.