• ☭SaltyIcetea☭@lemmy.ml
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    2 个月前

    i think this would be the proper way. ideally the vanguard would slowly transition power to the Working class willingly. i think the working class in its entirety is not conscious enough to organize a revolution.

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      2 个月前

      And ideally capitalism would wither away and die on its own accord. The vanguard is not credible enough to wield authority over the working class.

      • ☭SaltyIcetea☭@lemmy.ml
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        2 个月前

        sure thats one way of viewing it. if push come to shove the working class always has the power to overthrow the vanguard. yet large populations are generally to stupid to do so due to all the propaganda and reeducation (see the USA currently). first one would need to remove capitalism from the equation, and create political education that is systemically impossible to manipulate or censor. after that the working class will gain consciousness over time.

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          That is true, but it’s a huge undertaking to do even once, let alone twice in ‘rapid’ (10-30 years) succession once it turns out the vanguards have become the oldguards.

          Systemic change need to happen naturally from a grass-roots level if it is to truly last as an alternative to the status quo. It needs to be something that all people feel heard and supported in, and want to see succeed.

          This is one of the beauties of anarchism in that it promotes local groups to flourish, and to make the changes they need to suitable for their needs and environs. You can start working on secondary support systems without needing to wait for the revolution.

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          1 个月前

          systemically impossible to manipulate or censor

          I hope you have some ideas because I have serious doubts that’s possible in any political/economic system.

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      1 个月前

      It’s in the interests of the Vanguard for Revolution to never end. I consider it unlikely that they would willingly transition.