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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

The future of warfare: A $400 drone killing a $2M tank

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The future of warfare: A $400 drone killing a $2M tank

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Ukraine’s early adoption of ‘first-person view’ drones tips the scales against an enemy fighting a conventional war.
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    People whining about 3D printed guns always forget about the much more terrifiying things that can be made with a 3D printer - like a kamikazie drone.

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      we used to make our fpv drones out of poplar wood from the hardware store, usually we only used 3d printed stuff for like mounting the camera if we wanted to get fancy

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      To be fair, you do have to get the explosives some other way. (Not that it’s hard to get explosives).

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      Can you also print the payload?

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        No, nor can you print the battery, motors, flight computer, trans receiver or basically anything other than the frame.

        I love my 3d printer, but honestly when people talk about 3d printed weapons I always cringe, 3d printers can’t make weapons (well, I guess you could make a plastic rondel dagger or something, doubt it’d work well though), they make plastic. When people talk about 3d printed guns, I don’t think that most people realize that the only 3d printed parts are usually the exterior frame of the gun, the parts that make it an actual gun are still made from metal and purchased.

        Edit: and before anyone says it, yes you can 3d print metal, but not with anything you’re going to find in someone’s house - for the cost of an SLS metal printer, you could buy all the usual metal working equipment to just make a gun the old fashioned way

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        I mean, the payload can just be a spike.

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      The Australians have a cardboard kamikaze drone. The hard part would be sourcing enough electronics in a warzone.

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      You mean interconnected drone swarms.

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        autonomous interconnected drone swarms

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    If only we could be sure that $400 drones will only ever be used to kill tanks, and never to kill neighborhoods …

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      I’m waiting for the panic that will happen at the first political assassination using drones

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        Several years ago, before COVID, the Japanese government was on high alert because someone parked a drone on the roof of the Prime Minister’s office. Small traces of (harmless) radiation were detected on the drone and no one knows who put it there or why.

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          It’s entirely possible someone just flew it around near Fukushima, brought it to near the PM’s office, and then parked it on the roof as a political statement

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        https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/americas/100000006042079/how-the-drone-attack-on-maduro-unfolded-in-venezuela.html

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        Im pretty sure I read a few years ago someone tried in like south america, I’ll have to look it up

        edit: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45073385

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      That would make HOA meetings rather ackward… and dangerous.

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        I wonder if the second amendment people will get behind drones. It isn’t like you are going to be able to defend your house when someone across a continent can set it on fire.

        Imagine that brave new world. People walking around with a personal protection drone following them. Schools needing to invest in Iron Dome type anti-drones drones.

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      You can. It takes a much bigger drone to kill an entire neighborhood.

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        Bigger drones, or just more drones.

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        Yeah for now. What happens when someone attaches a laser to one that can start fires?

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          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR7vwRC6SFE

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        One gas main is all it takes

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    Oh boi, these autonomous machines will surely never be used against a civilian population!

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      They’re piloted.

      They already have.

      Whatever war gets cheaper. That honestly might make us do it less.

      Well until you get a pop-up with a timer and a live feed of an explosive drone heading toward you and a payment portal with an unskipable ad.

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        This warhead is brought to you by Raid:Shadow Legends. With the next 10 seconds of your life remaining open the App store and download Raid:Shadow Legends!

        • massive_bereavement@kbin.socialBanned from community
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          I’ll rather drink a verification can.

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            theres room for both

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        Whatever war gets cheaper. That honestly might make us do it less.

        back when all it took was a blade, was the bloodiest time in human history. It’s almost like things have been calm only because of the HIGH cost of war for the last few decades. Cheap war = more war.

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        Just wait until they have those quadrapeds all touched up. A screen with ads on one shoulder and a gun pointed at you in the other.

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        Holy Hell, Calm down there Satan!

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    I wonder if Russia is aware that Ukraine is using drones made with parts from China to take out their tanks lmao

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      Russia is aware and is trying to get China to restrict exports to Ukraine.

      Ukraine fears drone shortages due to China restrictions

      And China seems to really like the cheap Russian oil they’re buying these days…

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      What are they gonna do about it? They can’t tell anyone anything least of all China. Russia is neutered.

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    “Begun, the Drone Wars have.”

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      It began ages ago, Ukraine aren’t the first to use them in war. They were used extensively in Azerbaijan/Armenia before then.

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        But Ukraine took it to another level by the extent to which they’re using drones including naval drones.

        They are using everything from large military drones, improvised jetski-powered suicide drones, tiny FPV suicide drones, and everything in between.

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          I dunno, I’d say if anyone’s taking it to the next level it’s the US. They’re currently making unmanned wings of drone jet fighters controlled by a manned aircraft in the area, as well as these big drone airships that can launch hundreds or thousands of small drones. Ukraine is just kind of using existing drone technology in obvious ways. It’s certainly noteable in terms of the growth in use of the technology, but not really pushing the boundaries that much.

          Except maybe the water drones, they’re pretty novel. I don’t remember anyone talking about doing that before they did it.

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      Your drones are very impressive, you must be very proud.

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    TIL a single T-72B3 costs less than $2M.

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    Black Mirror was a documentary.

    • sndmn@lemmy.caBanned
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      We’re living the worst parts of both black mirror and Idiocracy.

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        When Not Sure proved that toilet water made the plants grow, the people embraced him and looked to him for leadership.

        In our reality, people continue to send death threats to healthcare professionals and try to run them out of town. And countless death threats to officials.

        We are MUCH worse than Idiocracy.

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    I feel like that isn’t an accurate price comparison

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    I went to check something from the autotldr and must say, it’s a decent read. First half is a little intro-ie but it’s a good reasonable length read. Would recommend.

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    Isn’t this happening today in Ukraine?

    • asbestos@lemmy.world
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      you didn’t read the article, did you

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        They’re joking about the title.

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          This just in: The future of flight is airplanes!

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    And Lem is once again proved to be a prophet. Y’all thought he was just the sci-fi writer behind Solaris

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    After the war, the Ucranian flag will have a drone painted in the center.

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    How do you “kill” an inanimate object

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      Make it support java, install iTunes on it, or attach it to a consumer grade HP printer usually does the trick.

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        Thank you 🙏

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      With a $400 drone.

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      With good inantimate objects.

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