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    So it’s pseudo-scientific racism using appearance to state desirability.

    Hmmm almost reminds me of a group using head size measurements to note undesirables, and thought of a specific appearance as hard workers and the future of the reich… But can’t recall how that went.

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      So it’s pseudo-scientific racism using appearance to state desirability.

      Yeah. Phrenology is actual Nazi science.

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        I saw that you corrected yourself, but to expand, Nazis pulled from whatever information to create the narrative they wanted. It was a hodgepodge of theories, also including mysticism and even the hollow Earth theory that we live on the inside of the Earth sphere.

        Phenology itself was already nearly 200 years old by the time the Nazi party was established. It was already becoming an unpopular idea the 1830s, but it hasn’t stopped it from bouncing around and having people pull from it to this day.

        https://ethos.lps.library.cmu.edu/article/id/482/

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    I think many people are at least able to see how stupid this is.

    But I guess if put a tad more subtle, the majority of recruiters and managers might fall for it. “Candidates which prefer yellow peppers over green ones have be found by our AI to be the more capable receptionists!” /s

    (Another thing I see is that I have seen a lot of non-trivial algorithm applications that are now touted as “ai” stuff, like basic pattern recognition, algebraic solvers, PCA, board game strategies, path planning in public transport networks, image enhancement, weather forecasts, SAT solvers, and so on… some of that might have resulted out of “ai” research, often as many as forty years ago, and some not. But most people were never aware of these things, much less how they work. And now it is all touted as “ai” as in GenAI. This will only add to the confusion. The better term would be “advanced information processing algorithms”.)

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      Those algorithms were collectively referred to as AI long before gen AI existed. It is gen AI that is riding on classical AIs name.

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        Most generative AI isnt even artificial intelligence by definition. Technically most of it falls under deep learning or machine learning. But that doesn’t sound as marketable as pretending chat bots are intelligent now.

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    you know…my father was batshit crazy. he believed in jade helm. he believed in biblical numerology. he was an undiagnosed schizophrenic. my point is, he was unwell.

    I say this as a pillar of salt before what I’m about to say. He had a theory that the increased solar activity that the planet was going to go through was going to have negative impacts on humanity and ultimately damage our DNA. The result being our regression as a species. At the time I didn’t believe it. I thought “it’s just more crazy shit.”

    the more I see this kind of news though… the more I start to question if he wasn’t maybe onto something…

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      Except you see this kind of crazy in very specific places. Places that have a very specific religion as the cultural foundation, a very specific history of believing themselves at the top (often because of that very same specific religion’s teachings!), and a very long-term growing cultural rot making said place ready to collapse at a moment’s notice.

      The increased solar activity that is supposedly causing our regression as a species is nothing particularly out of the ordinary. I was born in solar cycle 20. We are currently at or near the peak of solar cycle 25. So this is my sixth time around the solar activity ride. Of those six, the one I was born into was lower than this cycle’s peak activity, the next three exceeded it, and the penultimate one was approximately the same as now.

      So instead of looking outward and blaming the sun, how 'bout looking inward and blaming the culture? Introspection will do literally infinitely more good in figuring out your fucked-up society.

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        I get it, my comment was more of a long form insult to the idiots of the world that even a batshit insane person can tell something is wrong with them.

        completely agree it’s a culture problem. honestly, Americans have always been like this but things like “reality TV” and online “content creators” have lowered the thresholds of what is socially acceptable. if anything, the privatization and capitalization of the internet only increased the pace in which the transformation of our society happened.

        I fear the only options available to rectify these issues with the culture will be damaging to not just society at large, but to individuals as well.

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          You are rapidly approaching the point, if you haven’t already crossed it I mean, where the only solution to your nation’s culture rot will involve a lot of bloodshed. There is a very deep sickness in the USA that may not be fixable without extreme measures if it’s not handled quickly.

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    This is absolutely, positively not ever going to be used to auto-deny blacks, Arabs, “Asians”, etc. while giving it a “scientific” patina.

    There is not, for example, any code in China’s surveillance system that specifically looks for Uyghur features to trigger closer monitoring and control.

    Nope. Never gonna happen. This is science, after all, and not racist asshattery designed with Science words.