This is a proposal to have a weekly event where users could nominate and vote on a “Dbzer0 user of the week” to promote community engagement, also it would be fun as hell, this event could happen like on a weekend and could run from friday to sunday or friday to saturday

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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    3 months ago

    The word you’re looking for is “m@te” 🙂

    Anyway, this could be something I could automate with the threativore bot

  • lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    I have never been a fan of popularity contests,therefore I would hate to see them implemented so directly here.

    One could even argue that the very concept runs counter to the spirit of the instance by way of establishing a social hierarchy of sorts.

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    3 months ago

    I like this idea in broad concept!

    db0 mentions the threativore bot, which i am unfamiliar with, but I presume it does something like tally up up/downvotes on comments and posts?

    If so, you could have like a best comment, best post, maybe most wide reaching kind of metric…

    Then yeah, that’s neat! Kind of an automated attempt at a ‘bestof’ type thing, on a rolling basis.

    However… there may need be some kind of filtering or other, more complex rule system you might want to apply to this… as it could easily create a sort of positive feedback loop, where one super poster type person is just … always on top.

    (cough probably stamets cough, lol)

    You could maybe say one particular user who wins the title, well, they get put into a sort of reserve roster for, I dunno, the next 5 weeks, so they can only ‘win’ once every 6 weeks, tops, and then the bot/algo defers to the next person who hasn’t recently ‘won’.

    Presumably, if you wanted to bot-omate this, you could make a bunch of different categories or scores for ‘awards’.

    But again, … do this kinda thing too hard, or in the wrong way, and … well now you’ve just gamified posting/commenting, and that’s how you build a hivemind, so… yeah, that would probably not be good.

    And also, conceivably, you could basically do the inverse, and make something like an ‘AntiCitizen’ category, worst comment/post of the week, etc.

    … I am guessing that might be a bit… more controversial suggestion though, lol.

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        3 months ago

        Yes, because he recognizes that if you just did a naive count of… total comment/post net upvotes per user, per week, he would probably just win every week.

        The OP here suggests doing this kind of thing democratically, ie, via discussion and nomination, every week.

        That seems like a lot of engagement just for users to sort of meta commentate, to me, so I’m kind of skeptical of doing it weekly, via discussion, and I’m going off of what I think db0’s idea is, which would be to automate this via basically making some kind of bot and then some kind of additional script/ruleset/metrics.

        I’m not quite sure what the exact rules, or the precise goal of those rules should be, though.

        I think the idea of some kind of cool down for users only being able to win the award once in some timeframe is good, as that would let people know its not just a straightup mass popularity contest.

        Even if stamets wasn’t hardcoded out of that, he’d only win once every 6 weeks, by that very basic rule.

        Maybe you could weight a week timeframe of a user’s post/comment votes by that same user’s total lifetime post/comment votes, or the average score of them, so that the whole thing is then comparing users by basically what would show up in their own ‘top’ comments/posts, trying to find which db0 user had the most disproportionately ‘good’ post, or cumulative week of posts/comments, by the user’s own standards?

        Or, you could do a kind of… mean lifetime post/comment score for all db0 users, over all lifetime of all users, as the basis for that metric.

        Or, do that ‘global’ average, but on a weekly, rolling basis, not lifetime.

        I dunno, I’m a stats dork just musing about how there are many, many ways you could try to do this via an automated ruleset, and also trying to mention that if you do do this, you have to be very, very conscious of the meta effects it could have… a whole lot of people like lemmy because it isn’t as much of a hivemind/algo driven social space, so you probably don’t want to accidentally re-invent something like reddit or tiktok in terms of gamifying social interaction.

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        Also, … Stamuel? Like… as Sam is to Samuel?

        Haven’t heard that before, but that’s pretty funny, lol.

        Stamothy! You’re clogging up the lemmy tubes again! Post more fiber!

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      as it could easily create a sort of positive feedback loop, where one super poster type person is just … always on top.

      I am not a member of this instance, and I am so new to Lemmy that I’m still in the process of grasping instances and federating and so on, so feel free to take everything I say here with some big grains of salt. But to add to this, rather than just a person, I think this could wind up emphasizing a trope-ic sort of personality rather than just enshrineing an individual poster, and push a community towards an “ideal poster,” which, if everyone competes for is going to make things very samey and eventuallty an echo chamber. Though, I dunno, maybe that’s what you want. Or not. Or maybe the instance is too broad in topics for that to happen, and this is a total non-issue. I have zero idea about this instance. Big grains of salt and all that.