• lumpenproletariat@quokk.auBannedM
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        Yeah, nah.

        It’s a small region and you would hit every Palestinian, as well as impact countless other innocent people across the MENA region from fallout.

        Remove the Israeli state and give the land back to the original inhabitants to rebuild.

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        I say this without a shred of insincerity

        Then you’re a fool. The collateral damage and suffering from a nuke is inconceivable.

        It’s cool to hate Israeli’s but find a better hyperbole.

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        no man. there’s videos of isreali kids burning their draft papers, their prisons are filling up with conscientious objectors. nuke-the-fuckin-lot-of-em is not the way to go, even if they’re a tiny minority they do not deserve to be collateral damage in another nuclear dick waving event

        https://www.npr.org/2024/11/25/nx-s1-5160574/some-young-israelis-choose-to-go-to-jail-rather-than-fight-in-gaza

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/100-haredi-draft-dodgers-currently-held-in-military-prison-extremist-jerusalem-faction-says/

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        You should watch “Prosecuting Evil.” It talks about the allies after WW2, faced with a situation pretty similar to this, and how they had to grapple with what could even be done to try to stop the cycle of violence followed by “justified” retribution that had practically consumed the world by the middle of the 20th century, basically all the way into and including the genocide in Gaza in a literal unbroken line.

        What Ben Ferencz came to believe was the solution, was the International Criminal Court. He had a ton to do with pushing for its initial creation. Basically, we do exactly what we do inside our civil societies to maintain order: Agree on laws, then enforce them. The idea “well they did something wrong so we have to do all out war until they can’t do wrong anymore because they are dead” sounds like it makes sense but in practice it is not the way.

        “Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity.”

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        Probably should just arrest the leaders. The ones that have been in power for 20+ years and have slowly changed their people’s minds to reflect what their leaders want.

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    Imagine arresting 470 humanitarians because they dared to attempt to deliver food and medical supplies to an oppressed people, but still somehow retain the moral high-ground with most of the western world.

    It’s just fucking bonkers. WTF is wrong with people.

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    This disgusts me. These Zionists should read their own book:

    "If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat,

    and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink" (Proverbs 25:21, ESV)

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      They’re just reading a different part of it than you are.

      "When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

      16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you."

      Deuteronomy 20: 10 - 17

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      Zionist terrorists are no more Jewish than ISIS are Muslim. Don’t be antisemitic nor islamophobic.

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        You don’t get to define who is of a certain religion or not. They do.

        Religion isn’t inherently good. And believers don’t get automatically disqualified from being true believers when they’re lunatics.

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          Eh, not really. If you don’t worship Christ and (at least attempt to) understand the Bible and it’s teachings you aren’t Christian. That applies to all abrahamic religions as well, they are all pretty strictly defined. That said, this fits in perfectly for the abrahamic god and anyone that would legitimately worship it, so i see no reason to doubt their belonging.

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            1 - some murderers are practicing christians/jews/muslims. ISIS do pray.

            2 - if they’ve followed initiation rites (baptism, circumcision, what-have-you) congregate regularly with fellow religion members and do what the religion tells them to, they can be considered to be members of that religion. Being evil does not exclude them, and, more importantly, not following every rule does not exclude them. If it did, there wouldn’t be a lot of actual true believers.

            Heck, even popes sometimes engaged in depraved criminal activity.

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    She seems so thin now we get aid to her then she gets aid to Gaza and bb gets aids somewhere in between (I hope)

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      I don’t think they are suprised.

      They simply hope to put a spotlight on the inhumanity and horror to encourage “civilized” governments to finally grow a moral backbone.

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        Yeah. I have no idea what the intent of the flotilla people specifically was, but laying bare the brutal nature of something that was masquerading as something “civilized” or “defensive” or something is often a huge purpose behind things like that.

        It is why unarmed and overtly undeniably peaceful efforts are often a lot more successful ways of taking down a brutal regime than trying to fight them force for force (at which contest they will obviously win.) No person and no government can survive without support, and every time they show their true face they lose support which is very hard for them to ever win back.

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      Must say, I’m a bit confused.

      You post stuff like, “What? you mean a nation founded on rights only for rich white males and that entrenched slavery into their constitution isn’t a great place to be? Kinda crazy.” and “They can. But that would make you ‘lose’ capitalism. […] Why settle for one yatch, when you could have several mega yatchs?”

      Which makes me think you’re not some right winger and probably a decent person, but yet you’re saying something so needlessly callous about someone trying to do something decent, was that intentional?