• Microw@piefed.zip
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    6 months ago

    People need to understand that water usage, plastic pollution, Co2 generation and power usage are all different things and just saying “tHe EnViRoNmEnT” isn’t helpful. Some of these things matter more than others.

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    6 months ago

    “It’s just the corner of the fireworks store that’s on fire, I don’t see what you’re concerned about”

    AI power growth is projected to grow exponentially for a service a lot of people view as morally reprehensible and actively harmful

    Spencer Weart identified the dangers of global warming in the 50s, we ignored the warnings and now people and entire species are dying. Excuse us for trying to prevent accelerating the problem

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      AI power growth is projected to grow exponentially for a service a lot of people view as morally reprehensible and actively harmful

      And this is a lie altman is telling to get more money.

      It’s not scaling. GPT-5 is making it more obvious, but the ML research community has known this for some time. Tech projected to take off (like bitnet and more sparse attention/inference schemes), on the other hand, will lower power usage enough for phone inference and such.

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      6 months ago

      So is AI useless and just a bubble that will pop, or will it explode exponentially?

      It can’t be both.

      When talking about the environment people say it will explode and burn the planet, but in the same breath they will say it’s useless and just a bubble

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        it will grow exponentially until it pops and then will progress normally in a way that is actually useful. that is what the term “bubble” means in this context.

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        6 months ago

        I never said useless. Mustard Gas is really useful, State Sponsored propaganda is useful. Usefulness does not equate to goodness as much as capitalist will try to convince you otherwise

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    6 months ago

    I’m down with the anti-beef and anti-Bitcoin sentiment, I can even get into the anti-travel argument (we need high speed rail) but saying AI is less harmful than those? Please.

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    6 months ago

    Reproducing is the most substantial drain to the environment, and people with AI girl/boyfriends tend to excel at avoiding that.