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Also, Japan is very capitalistic and they have amazing trains.
look I don’t care who’s communist and who’s capitalist, we need them trains
It’s not a stretch, it’s outright false to call it communism or socialism, systems which necessitate the abolishment of capitalist mode of production (commodity production, private ownership, markets) and money. China, meanwhile, literally has billionaires, still produces things under capitalist mode of production and the only oddity it has compared to other Capitalist countries is partially nationalized economy (which Mussolini has also done, it’s not socialism by itself).
It’s just a social democracy.
democracy is a far stretch though, isnt it? And capitalist is also not entirely true, when entire industry branches are nationalized, planned and not privatized
Isn’t there only one political party in China? How is that democracy? Not being hostile, genuinely curious how that would work
You can have disagreements within a single party. Like how in the US they banned communist parties because it didn’t align with the capitalist ideals that all American parties are required to align with.
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It’s like burning down a house and asking what’s the problem after the fire has gone out. Repercussions last a long time. The cultural changes produced go on for generations.
Anyways, none of that matters cause this is America. We just did the unconstitutional thing at the State level instead.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/GV/htm/GV.557.htm
Please read and hit me with some more complaints. Maybe if I keep knocking them down you will eventually change your mind :)
I think people have some degree of chouce at the more local levels, but you’re right.
Wikipedia lists 9 parties in the NPC
And all of those parties are listed as being under the control of CCP. So it is a one party state.
Cool, thanks, TIL
You should also learn that those parties are subsidiaries of CCP, the governing party. They are not actual alternatives.
Lets call it state capitalist, as thats the proper term
It’s not even that, given how there’s a decent chunk of their economy owned by private individuals
As I understand it, the majority shareholder is the cccp in those little capitalist bubbles?
The term state capitalism cover a lot of the basics of the Chinese system.
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to be fair, in communism corruption and favoritism have always been creating rich people as well, similar to capitalism, but usually not in the same scale. greed is a problem that has to be addressed.
Then that system is not communist regardless of what they call themselves or what their political opponent calls them! If they are in a fundamental opposition to the work of Marx then they are not communist
That’s the problem though, communism is ‘everyone puts their resources in a big pile and then we re-ditribute them evenly’ and then you realise you need someone to administrate the distribution and hope like an idiot that they don’t just take the whole pile for themselves. Capitalism is ‘everyone maintains their own pile’ and you hope like an idiot that the people with the biggest piles don’t conspire to steal everyone elses for themselves.
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml how does it work in China, again?
China is sentencing billionaires to death. You’re just Sinophobic.
China is as communist as I am a french male model. That said, it is indeed a mistake to allow the “free market” to determine the nation’s critical infrastructure. American rail is an absolute joke.
I… I already told you.
muricans calling everything communism that isn’t gop cock sucking is getting old
Whos trains are those ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the world may never know
Are they belong to a stateless moneyless society? It would be very embarrassing for you if they aren’t.
Would it be? True it’s not communist but also China doesn’t claim to be. They claim it as an aspiration not as a current state of affairs. However we are random internet people. Are we really going to explain to every dumbass how China isn’t communist, only a vanguard state hoping to evolve into one in the future according to the chain of events described in the communist manifesto?
No. Cause that’s a waste of time. Being angry that all that context wasn’t added is pedantic because we ain’t operating with strict definitions that everyone agrees to. We are working with cultural vibe checks. And as far as culture is concerned, China is communist.
Did you have a stroke writing that? It makes zero sense
yeah we almost got a high speed rail system but some dipshit from south africa decided to build a shitty tunnel instead
The more I read about Boring Company the more annoyed I am.
Close. Put the capitalist train on its side, spilling hazardous waste into a community water source.
Capitalism (good) Vs Capitalism (bad)
FTFY
Capitalism with literal slave labor vs capitalism that outsources the literal slave labor or calls them prisoners with jobs
and I wouldn’t want to live in neither the US nor China
Capitalism (with speedy trains) vs capitalism (with slow trains)
FTFY
Communism is when trains run on time
’Communism is when communal efforts produce results.’
Accidentally correct, you dolt.
Well, America is so communist then, it’s not even close. None of their results were the result of any individual, it’s always a communal effort.
The only non-communism is a small personal garden, as long as there are more than two people working on something, it’s communism because community.
Either that, or the word communism means something very different, you doltYes. All of our successes are the result of communal effort. It’s not communism because the means of production are controlled by a small group of people, who also absorb all of the excess wealth created from the communal efforts.
Reply back please. Your self-owns are cracking me up.
Daamn, you’re so close to the point I was making, you can almost taste it. Now you need to actually engage with it in good faith, for real. I don’t expect you do though.
until you live in an actual communist state. Ever tried that?
You mean the communist and socialist regimes the capitalists used military force to destabilize for wanting to be societies instead of a bunch of rugged individuals at each other’s throats for scraps in order to keep their resource markets open to our capitalist’s exploitation?
Nah, once one try fails you’re not allowed to do it again, that’s why we all live in absolute monarchies.
