[Farm worker, looking tired] We should improve society somewhat

[smug grinning dude in a well] You’re alienating moderates This is the reason why we can’t have leftist unity I am very smart

https://thebad.website/comic/scary_words

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    My “independent” uncle told me at thanksgiving last year that he fundamentally disagrees with the idea that anything can be improved. The world is was good as it ever will be. So, he doesn’t support anyone claiming that things can be made better, and we shouldn’t try to fix any problems.

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      Passive Nihilism

      However, Nietzsche didn’t think everyone was capable of curing themselves of nihilism.  What Nietzsche calls passive nihilism is a view that accepts nihilism as the endpoint of the search for meaning. Passive nihilists lack the strength to be the creators of their own values and meanings. For Nietzsche, a passive nihilist is characterized by a weak will, by the inability to create meaning, and by the tendency to withdraw from the world.

      Source

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        He also said they were womanly priests acting on behalf of the Jews to destroy masculinity but he said that about everything

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      Well, when are liberals planning on improving society somewhat? Does this happen after they get done working with Trump and republicans? Is it gonna be with the next democrat who gets the White House? The one after that?

      I’m just curious as to when we’ll start seeing more than attempts at rousing speeches from them.

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          Let’s not forget that it’s their fault we’re in this mess in the first place. They fucked up so bad with Biden/Harris and the campaign against Trump, and then millions of them just stayed home come election time. They can try blaming that on leftists all they want, but there’s not that many leftists in the nation.

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            Even then, it’s not my fault I didn’t vote someone, it’s their fault for not convincing me. They’re in the position of power, not me.

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      I certainly prefer a yes and. Yes we should forgive student loan debt and eliminate the need to accrue such debt in the first place etc. etc.

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      Cool. Are you going to try to convert people or just sit around waiting for them to figure it out? Or try to drag the small far left to your portion of it

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        1. The best way to ‘convert’ someone is for them to literally “figure it out” by themselves and start reading political theory via their own volition to grasp the world better rather than get their worldview from inconsistent, barely coherent liberal media slop. It’s impossible to ‘convert’ purely via a singular argument, just look at linux users trying to convert entrenched windows users.

        2. The comment was a reference to how radicalized socialist workers (who’d make up military core and who had demands like worker councils, socialization of industry) would team up with liberal elements in a popular front type of way, only for this front after winning to immediately betray and sideline the worker’s demands. Historical examples: French revolutions, overthrow of Fascist Italy, February revolution in Russia, etc.

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          Oh ok sorry, us anarchists usually are shot from the front and back by that point, so I tend to forget about that part.

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          Wait a minute, you think the liberals ruined the February Revolution, buddy, the socialist leadership wasn’t even there for it. What next? Calling the makhnovists libs?

          I’m a socialist in favor of left unity, but you need to touch grass, make friends with people who disagree with you, then go back and try to figure out who betrayed Marxist ideals in November of 1917.

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            Holy shit why is every .worlder so aggressive? I don’t know how you derived such a conclusion from my original comment, so let me explain:

            Proletarians, soldiers, peasants and so on overthrew the Tsarists, and in this popular front of sorts proletariat had demands for the liberal provisional government, such as Russia’s withdrawal from WW1, land and labor reforms - things of that nature. The provisional liberal government failed to meet any of that (either via stalling or evading action), and they also didn’t withdraw from the war, and these reasons definitely contributed to November revolution.

            Simplified to not make it too long, but that’s the core point - nothing to do with Marxist ideals.

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    Fuck moderates, they’ll die when we get rid of all the nazis just like any other piece of trash.

    Edit: im talking US politics. The rest of the world has their shit figured out so this sounds wild to them, but here the only way we get anything done is by putting a bullet in our oppressors. Thats the way its been since we ditched the british, and thats the way it was until we shot the slavers. But ever since then, America has decided to cozy up to nazis, pedophiles, and fascists. So when given the option between “kill all trans people, all colored people, and all women” and “kill only the colored trans women” I choose “its time to start loading my gun”

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      yeah nothing says improve society like killing everyone who doesn’t think exactly like you

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        If the people “who doesn’t think exactly like” us are democrats who are working with the literal Nazis in the White House, then they are nothing more than Nazi collaborators. And the only good Nazi…

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        I also pretend to misunderstand the people who pressure me not to be a limp dick centrist.

        News flash: they’re going to put us in the same camps, and apathy isn’t going to stop the camps from being built.

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        Yep, they had their chance to not support genocide and theocracy, and they made their choice. Now their continued presence makes people think we have to tolerate it at we end up with idiots like you.

        Yes, getting rid of the bad people makes the world inprove. Glad you figured that out.

        Edit: nah, i shouldn’t have responded. You’re aren’t even arguing in good faith. I said moderates, you said everyone. If you can take a look at nazis and at almost anyone else and cant see the difference youre just as bad as the nazis. Thats the one good thing about our country becoming so polarized, its really easy to see who the good people are and who the moderates/republicans/nazis/rapists/murderes/pedophiles/priests are.

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        man, it’ll be nice when we actually make some progress in making the world better. If you could stop making it worse, that would be appreciated.

        Edit: ah, I was talking about in the context of American politics, where we have a fucking rapist killer in office because of rapist apologists. You, not living in the US, might have a different view of things. But now that my aunt is being targetted by the US goverment who wants her dead simply because she exists, i’d say im pretty justified in being pissed that beople want to “both sides” my aunts fucking life. If you dont have issues with fucking nazis down there, good on ya, mate. But we do here, and the only good nazi, as the saying goes,